Canada General Discussion (2019-)

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I feel Things like CanCon regs etc. should be *strengthemed*, not weakened... unless the maple syrupers do want to join the USA?

The maple syrupers by and large don't want to join the USA, that's an extremely fringe view held by some Wexiteers, and some people like JJ McCullough with a really niche worldview. But it's a little disingenuous to pretend that (English-) Canadian culture is a vastly different thing than American culture (English is an important distinction, because French-Canadians are obviously very distinct)

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Wait, what. He's one of my favorite Canadian Youtubers and I know he leans moderate / economically liberal, but I've never seen him express that opinion?

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Seems the Greens have a new leadership candidate. Elizabeth May.

https://www.thestar.com/politics/federal/2022/07/28/elizabeth-may-set-to-join-green-party-leadership-race-sources-say.html

Isn't she just basically Canadian Jill Stein?

I still think the Greens would be well-suited by figuring out a way to cooperate with the NDP.

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Example A of how gun control does not stop mass killings.  

Homocides in America per 100,000 people with guns: 4.46(1)
Homocides in Canada per 100,000 people with guns: 0.52(2)

And that's even accounting for the massive amount of guns which are smuggled across the U.S.-Canadian border every year.

Your ideology is a joke disproven by all verifiable and objective facts.

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Example A of how gun control does not stop mass killings. 

Homocides in America per 100,000 people with guns: 4.46(1)
Homocides in Canada per 100,000 people with guns: 0.52(2)

And that's even accounting for the massive amount of guns which are smuggled across the U.S.-Canadian border every year.

Your ideology is a joke disproven by all verifiable and objective facts.

>Be Canadian
>Get stabbed

"Good thing I wasn't shot with a gun!"

The real reason our homicide rate is so much lower is because up until recently Canadians just weren't as murderous as Americans. We had far fewer shootings even when Canadians could own a fully automatic weapon completely unlicensed (1954) or with a license no more difficult to get than a handgun license (1955-1976), and none of the major gun control legislation had any real impact on homicide rates.

If Canadians wanted to go out and kill random people at the same rate Americans do then our vaunted gun control would do nothing whatsoever to stop them but it might stop people from defending themselves against an attacker.

This individual incident of stabbings is horrific and I genuinely hope all the families of the victims are properly taken care of. That being said, every time there is an incident of mass-murder outside the US, GOP supporters will always take it as a chance to take pot-shots at gun control laws which despite not being 100% effective as no law or regulation is are still empirically proven to be far more effective then the 'system', or lack thereof of one, we have in place here in the States.

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Example A of how gun control does not stop mass killings.  

Maybe, but Canada has a lot fewer mass killings than the US. Must be a coincidence.

This is simply not true.  There have been several high profile mass killings in recent years (Toronto van attack, Nova Scotia shooting, now this).  Given Canada is 1/10th the population of the US, I would say the rate of massacres is on par with the violence in the USA.

So basically instead of checking verifiable facts and statistics on this, which completely refute your claim by the way, you're gonna go with your feelings that violence in both countries is similar because you have ulterior motives you want to prove. Seems about right for a Conservative...

In any case, can we not make this thread about gun control or American politics... I bet our Canadian posters and friends would appreciate it.

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Saskatchewan stabbings: One of two suspects found dead https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-62803059

One of the perpetrators is dead thankfully, other still on the loose w/o further evidence.

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Seems to me like monarchists would be immensely dumb to try and challenge it; since doing so would put the debate surrounding monarchy in a much more prominent place in the Canadian public's mind. And uh, that public has been polled as being far less friendly to the monarchy since Lizzie's passing.

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If I was a left-leaning voter who wasn't a Chinese simp I'd never vote Liberal again under this government.

Trudeau has been among my least favorite of major center/center-left world leaders for a minute but these allegations if proven are indeed more than concerning.

Glad to hear the NDP is pushing for an inquiry.

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Canada has 'game plan' if U.S. takes far-right, authoritarian shift, Joly says

Definitely don't blame them, and it's scary to consider what the next decade could bring in my country. Sad that this is something our allies and friends even need to consider.

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University of Calgary investigates Nazi-style march through student residence

What is going on up there Canada? Is everything okay?

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I can't tell if the reporter is really stupid or the Politician is really smart.

Pierre Poilievre

Interview with False Questions

https://youtu.be/CmbAPfKJMRU?feature=shared

I saw this video a couple of days ago and shared it with some friends to point out how much of a narcissistic smuck Poilievere looks like here. Painfully insufferable. And everyone pretty much agreed he looked horrible here.

Of course you thought it was a good look.

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I can't tell if the reporter is really stupid or the Politician is really smart.

Pierre Poilievre

Interview with False Questions

https://youtu.be/CmbAPfKJMRU?feature=shared

I saw this video a couple of days ago and shared it with some friends to point out how much of a narcissistic smuck Poilievere looks like here. Painfully insufferable. And everyone pretty much agreed he looked horrible here.

Of course you thought it was a good look.

Yet he’s still winning by Mulroney/Reagan esque margins in the polls.  Curious?

I mean, even by the worst polls 60% of Canadians are voting for parties on the "left or center-left" (the liberals clearly have centrist elements)... But yes, FPTP is a terrible system and Trudeau is also pretty 'insufferable' himself, albeit at least he isn't trying to emulate the worst parts of the populist conservatism in my country.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

I can't tell if the reporter is really stupid or the Politician is really smart.

Pierre Poilievre

Interview with False Questions

https://youtu.be/CmbAPfKJMRU?feature=shared

I saw this video a couple of days ago and shared it with some friends to point out how much of a narcissistic smuck Poilievere looks like here. Painfully insufferable. And everyone pretty much agreed he looked horrible here.

Of course you thought it was a good look.

Yet he’s still winning by Mulroney/Reagan esque margins in the polls.  Curious?

I mean, even by the worst polls 60% of Canadians are voting for parties on the "left" (the liberals clearly have centrist elements)... But yes, FPTP is a terrible system.

I mean that cause many centrist voters vote for the Liberals but would vote Tory over NDP(It's why when NDP becomes the number 2 party, many lib voters vote Tory). Also multiple Canadian provinces  have rejected changing the FPTP system when they had a choice to in a referendum

That would be more relevant under someone like O'Toole, Michael Chong, etc... Poilievre has certainly managed to persuade a good amount of Liberal-voting Canadians it seems in present polls, but unless he does begin polling above the 40% mark which, from what I can tell, is his high point... Then I do feel like he's consolidated pretty much the whole of the 'Canadian Right' and a good amount of a populist trend he himself has no part in having created but he's riding it.

Admittedly, he's done this pretty successfully. But unless you think he's gonna gain votes from the Greens, NDP or BQ I do think he's reached his high mark.

As for FPTP for MMP and other systems like that, I respect the right of the people to choose their own systems, I just objectively believe that situations like this prove why MMP is the preferable choice.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

I can't tell if the reporter is really stupid or the Politician is really smart.

Pierre Poilievre

Interview with False Questions

https://youtu.be/CmbAPfKJMRU?feature=shared

I saw this video a couple of days ago and shared it with some friends to point out how much of a narcissistic smuck Poilievere looks like here. Painfully insufferable. And everyone pretty much agreed he looked horrible here.

Of course you thought it was a good look.

Yet he’s still winning by Mulroney/Reagan esque margins in the polls.  Curious?

I mean, even by the worst polls 60% of Canadians are voting for parties on the "left or center-left" (the liberals clearly have centrist elements)... But yes, FPTP is a terrible system and Trudeau is also pretty 'insufferable' himself, albeit at least he isn't trying to emulate the worst parts of the populist conservatism in my country.

This is the result of having a multi party system.  No one has got a true majority (50% of the vote) since 1984. 

Oh I'm fully aware, I could probably name every Canadian PM and election winner, and most runner-ups, right-through 1867. I promise I'm not some ignorant American just giving my opinion, I do genuinely keep up on these things. But from what I can tell it seems like Poilevere has successfully convinced most soft 'liberal' voters in the polls. The question now becomes will he keep them? But other than that, where else would he break out from the mid to high 30's? Quebec City with former ADQ voters might be one spot, if he doesn't already have them.

[No War, but the War on Christmas]

I can't tell if the reporter is really stupid or the Politician is really smart.

Pierre Poilievre

Interview with False Questions

https://youtu.be/CmbAPfKJMRU?feature=shared

I saw this video a couple of days ago and shared it with some friends to point out how much of a narcissistic smuck Poilievere looks like here. Painfully insufferable. And everyone pretty much agreed he looked horrible here.

Of course you thought it was a good look.

Yet he’s still winning by Mulroney/Reagan esque margins in the polls.  Curious?

I mean, even by the worst polls 60% of Canadians are voting for parties on the "left or center-left" (the liberals clearly have centrist elements)... But yes, FPTP is a terrible system and Trudeau is also pretty 'insufferable' himself, albeit at least he isn't trying to emulate the worst parts of the populist conservatism in my country.

Not really.

The polling average has it at 50-50 (CON 40+PP 5+ BQ 5 = 50) (LIB 26+ NDP 18+ GRN 5 =49).

You're including BQ in the 'Conservative' category? And CON at 40 + PP at 5 are both the tippy-top of their polling numbers, yes. I highly doubt PP get's 5% of the vote, I'd wager money on it actually.