PA-SN 2022 megathread: Shrek vs. The Wizard of Oz

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Am I the only one who gets major Randy Bryce vibes from John Fetterman? 

I certainly do. Being the darling of Twitter progressives, most of whom probably don't live in the state, does not necessarily translate to actual electoral appeal. Fetterman has never run for a major office on his own.

I think Democrats are more likely to hold the governorship than to win the Senate seat (which is still a pure tossup in my book). At least Shapiro has proven strength as a candidate.

I can see why people would make the comparison to Bryce, but Bryce never won anything or was elected to anything. Fetterman at least is a known statewide figure who was elected to a spot and is a statewide elected official.

Meanwhile, I still don't necessarily buy that Dean will jump in. It could happen, but I feel like it's still unlikely.

But yeah, if she does, then Arkoosh is better off just running for PA-04.

Fetterman has never been elected in a GE in his own right to anything higher than Mayor of Braddock.  Fetterman has only really won one competitive primary and that was primarily due to a fluke in which the various candidates' geographic bases happened to work in his favor by sheer dumb luck.  Fetterman's handling of the gun incident reminds me of Bryce's child support issues in the sense that it's a glaringly obvious vulnerability that his campaign has handedly pretty badly and his supporters seem to be just sticking their heads in the sand about it. 

We can't afford to gamble with this race; the top priority is flipping the seat.  If this were, say, a 2018 environment then I'd be less worried about running Fetterman (although even then, you could argue that running Kenyatta would be a better play), but in 2022 we need someone reliable.  Ideally, you'd want someone with proven crossover appeal like Cartwright or even Lamb (my issues with him are strictly ideological).  And Houlahan would at least be a much safer play since she's basically a Generic Dem with a history of running solid campaigns (albeit in a pretty Democratic district, but even before the PA court-redistricting, the consensus in 2018 was that she had turned out to be a really good recruit IIRC). 

Kenyatta is also too big a gamble for my liking in 2022, but at least I can see what he might bring to the table if nominated.  Fetterman?  I went in with an open mind, but he increasingly strikes me as being Randy Bryce 2.0.  Honestly, I think Fetterman is probably more likely to under-perform than flip the seat if he faces a strong Republican opponent (even if it isn't Fitzpatrick, I highly doubt that Jeff Bartos is gonna be the only noteworthy Republican to jump in ).

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The Fetterman=Bryce comparisons are very lazy, are you just looking at them and assuming they're similar because of their build and perhaps some of their rhetoric? Otherwise I see literally no reason, Fetterman and Bryce are very different in just about everyway they could be.

Except they’re really not all that different...

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The Fetterman=Bryce comparisons are very lazy, are you just looking at them and assuming they're similar because of their build and perhaps some of their rhetoric? Otherwise I see literally no reason, Fetterman and Bryce are very different in just about everyway they could be.

Except they’re really not all that different...

No? Randy Bryce was just a guy who was a perennial failed candidate with a light criminal record.

John Fetterman is a longtime Mayor and the current sitting Lieutenant Governor. They are in no way similar. This is very lazy analysis.

What do you mean? They are both working class presenting middle aged men with facial hair from Midwestern swing states. They’re practically identical!

They both are liked by leftists on Twitter! They are identical!!!

Serious question:

Are you or leecannon actually interested in having a discussion or just here to post lazy, bad-faith, straw men?  

I’d be happy to make an effort-post when I have a chance (it’ll probably be tomorrow) explaining why I think Fetterman has a lot in common with Bryce (hint: most of it isn’t the stuff you guys mentioned in your straw man posts) and I’d welcome your thoughts on said analysis if you still disagree, but if - and I say this as someone who thinks both of you are generally solid posters - you’re just gonna keep posting obnoxious straw men like the quoted posts regardless of what I say, then I don’t want to waste any of our time.  Fair enough?

Honestly, the reason I sometimes hesitate to make actual effort posts as opposed to something quicker like “Except they’re really not all that different...” is b/c it’s hard to tell around here when folks are actually looking for meaningful discourse and when making a more thoughtful post is just a waste of time.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

The Fetterman=Bryce comparisons are very lazy, are you just looking at them and assuming they're similar because of their build and perhaps some of their rhetoric? Otherwise I see literally no reason, Fetterman and Bryce are very different in just about everyway they could be.

Except they’re really not all that different...

No? Randy Bryce was just a guy who was a perennial failed candidate with a light criminal record.

John Fetterman is a longtime Mayor and the current sitting Lieutenant Governor. They are in no way similar. This is very lazy analysis.

What do you mean? They are both working class presenting middle aged men with facial hair from Midwestern swing states. They’re practically identical!

They both are liked by leftists on Twitter! They are identical!!!

Serious question:

Are you or leecannon actually interested in having a discussion or just here to post lazy, bad-faith, straw men?  

I’d be happy to make an effort-post when I have a chance (it’ll probably be tomorrow) explaining why I think Fetterman has a lot in common with Bryce (hint: most of it isn’t the stuff you guys mentioned in your straw man posts) and I’d welcome your thoughts on said analysis if you still disagree, but if - and I say this as someone who thinks both of you are generally solid posters - you’re just gonna keep posting obnoxious straw men like the quoted posts regardless of what I say, then I don’t want to waste any of our time.  Fair enough?

Honestly, the reason I sometimes hesitate to make actual effort posts as opposed to something quicker like “Except they’re really not all that different...” is b/c it’s hard to tell around here when folks are actually looking for meaningful discourse and when making a more thoughtful post is just a waste of time.

Whoa. Here come the anti fun police. Not allowed to have fun on the Congressional Elections board huh?

Well if you post an effort post, I will respond in kind because this is a belief I actually hold. But if you'd rather write out weird high horse criticisms that's fine too.

I mean, if your idea of fun is posting obnoxious straw men in lieu of something even remotely substantive, then obviously the board would be better off w/o that crap.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Neither of them's gonna be "the next Barack Obama" if Sharif - despite standing 0 chance of winning - nonetheless pulls enough votes away from Kenyatta to hand the race to Fetterman.

Sharif be like:



BUT in all seriousness, Sharif wouldn't be objectively the worst candidate, and had he entered earlier, he likely could have cleared the field of any major Philly candidates.  I've been cackling since Malcolm blindsided everyone with his announcement, as I have some professional beef with Sharif(he has done the UTMOST to stymie progressive rural Dems in PA), and would not be sad to see him lose the nomination if he runs.  

On another topic, if Malcolm doesn't snatch the Senate nom next spring, I'd love to see him take out Dwight Evans in 2024.

1) I would love to see Kenyatta drop down and run against Evans.  I actually think he’d have a better shot there. 

2) Sharif seems pretty awful; I wouldn’t trust him as far as I can throw him.  And his family has a history of sketchball behavior.  John Street was an extremely corrupt and all-around horrible Mayor.  His uncle, Milton Street, switched parties in order to flip control of the PA State Senate in the 90s to the Republicans (he was deciding vote), went to prison for tax evasion, and recently ran against Kenyatta as a Republican.  I know this isn’t Sharif Street’s fault, but given his history of working against progressives, I don’t see how we can trust him (especially in a closely divided Senate).

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I hope Dean stays out of the race, I don’t think she has the political chops to handle a highly competitive Senate GE (especially if it’s not a Democratic-leaning national environment) and she was one of the less charismatic impeachment managers.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

At this point, I’d definitely take Kenyatta over Fetterman.  I don’t think the latter can win the GE against even a B-list Republican given what I’ve seen from Fetterman’s campaign thus far.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I hope Dean stays out of the race, I don’t think she has the political chops to handle a highly competitive Senate GE (especially if it’s not a Democratic-leaning national environment) and she was one of the less charismatic impeachment managers.

But then Houlahan is screwed in redistricting

I think she’ll run for Senate.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

At least he can win the GE, but we’ve gotta make sure we get an ironclad public commitment from him to support nuking the filibuster prior to the primary.  Otherwise, we’re better off rolling the dice with Kenyatta.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

If the apparatus backs Lamb, it will mark my point of no return with the Democratic Party. Manchinism must be stopped if the party is truly interested in making policy.

Let’s see if the primary moves him to the left first.  I mean, he supports $15 minimum wage so that already puts him ahead of some Democratic Senators.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

If the apparatus backs Lamb, it will mark my point of no return with the Democratic Party. Manchinism must be stopped if the party is truly interested in making policy.

At least Manchin consistently overperformed top-of-the-ticket Democrats.

Lamb over-performed quite a bit in both the special and the 2018 GE.  In 2020, unlike most congressional Democrats in tough districts, he matched Biden’s showing IIRC.  Plus, every election he’s run in was a competitive race and he’s currently three for three.  I get not trusting him for ideological reasons - although I don’t think he’d be as bad as Sinema, Manchin, or even Maggie Hassen - and I’d even want him to commit to some things like nuking the filibuster. 

That said, while he’s not a Cartwright-level over-performer, he has an excellent electoral track record and is a good fit for PA.  And I don’t see how one can argue Lamb would be less electable than Fetterman, Kenyatta, or Street.  Maybe we don’t need Lamb to win and it isn’t worth the ideological tradeoff, but he’s definitely the strongest candidate currently running from an electability standpoint.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

If the apparatus backs Lamb, it will mark my point of no return with the Democratic Party. Manchinism must be stopped if the party is truly interested in making policy.

Let’s see if the primary moves him to the left first.  I mean, he supports $15 minimum wage so that already puts him ahead of some Democratic Senators.

The problem is that in practice, he's already tried the usual moderate hero-esque doublespeak crap on one popular key Democratic issue. His statement on his no vote in the MORE act was vague and almost totally devoid of policy. All he said was that how he Totally Supports federal decriminalization, but We're In A Pandemic and In A Recession, and how he voted against it because he doesn't think it's important.

Compare this to statements from Cheri Bustos and Chris Pappas, who named specific concerns and policies that they were against. Lipinski and Cuellar said (what I believe to be) the quiet part about Conor Lamb's marijuana beliefs out loud - that they don't think marijuana should be legal at all because of long-obsolete reefer madness logic.

Obviously, I don't like how my Congressman voted, but at least he had the guts to stand by his vote. Lamb's statement on marijuana reform was even more policy-free than the initial statements from my senators.

After a few weeks, it came out from a teleconference that the main sticking point from Hassan and Shaheen was the fact that the Sanders proposal eliminated the tipped minimum wage exemption. Or, more simply, they voted no on a $15 minimum wage because their donors in the restaurant lobby told them to.

My position is fairly simple. I don't trust Lamb to be a reliable vote because he hasn't even been reliable for one of the Democratic Party's most popular proposals! The MORE Act isn't "defund the police" or a Green New Deal or even "eliminate private insurance companies". This is marijuana decriminalization. If he's trying the moderate hero approach on the party's most popular bipartisan issue, what's to stop him from blocking a minimum wage hike or a public option?

I guess part of it is that we disagree on whether the MORE Act was a key issue or a virtue-signaling bill dealing with a low priority issue that never had a chance of passing.  I’d argue it was the latter, so I am obviously less troubled than you by Lamb’s opposition to it.  

Personally, I care more about things like the PRO Act, nuking the filibuster, HB 1, healthcare, gun control, student debt relief, and the nominee not being one of those God-awful “muh fiscal conservatism” economic policy DINOs.  

I would vote for Lamb in the general and I would volunteer for him. The gap between him and any of the potential Republican candidates is, shall we say, quite large. But I would not want him to be the nominee and I will do what I can to ensure he is not the nominee. I think primaries should always be for ideology and, barring extremely extenuating circumstances, general elections should be for voting for the person who will accomplish the most good who actually has a chance to win. That's almost always the Democrat. In the primary, I'm going to support the candidate who either supports Medicare for All or supports the greatest amount of policies that I agree with and find crucial. Lamb doesn't check those boxes, but if he ain't leagues above any Republican...

Fair enough.  Tbh I don’t even know that I’d be willing to vote for Lamb in a primary right now were I a PA resident.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

We’re still making electability arguments? Even when several progressive Democrats overperformed Biden and quite a few moderate Democrats (including Lamb) underperformed him? I could easily see Lamb being a Patrick Murphy-esque dud as a Senate candidate, so I don’t get why people are so sure he’d be such a terrific candidate, but either way, primaries should be about who has the best ideas and is the best at selling them, i.e. a time for debate, not a time to shut down the debate because we “know” who the most electable candidate is. I’d obviously prefer Lamb to a Republican, but Democrats should not want another Sinema in the Senate.

I mean, if we're making arguments about who is best at effectively selling their views then WWC LARPer John Fetterman shouldn't even be seriously considered for the nomination.  I mean, he's run a pretty weak campaign, already proven himself a lazy candidate who regularly takes votes for granted (to say nothing of his disastrous handling of the shotgun controversy).  

I've always said I'd much prefer Cartwright to Lamb.  My second choice would be either Lamb or Kenyatta, but I'm currently undecided between the two.  After that, I guess Houlahan *shrug*  Street and Fetterman are awful candidates though.  Arkoosh seems a bit like bargain basement Houlahan.  

All I'm saying is 1) I'm not yet convinced Lamb is gonna be another Sinema/Manchin if elected and want to wait and see what firm policy commitments he makes during the primaries; and 2) I do think there is a legitimate electability argument to be made for him (at least more so than there is for any of the other major candidates currently running).  

We’re still making electability arguments? Even when several progressive Democrats overperformed Biden and quite a few moderate Democrats (including Lamb) underperformed him? I could easily see Lamb being a Patrick Murphy-esque dud as a Senate candidate, so I don’t get why people are so sure he’d be such a terrific candidate, but either way, primaries should be about who has the best ideas and is the best at selling them, i.e. a time for debate, not a time to shut down the debate because we “know” who the most electable candidate is. I’d obviously prefer Lamb to a Republican, but Democrats should not want another Sinema in the Senate.

Which progressive Democrats that you are aware of overperformed Biden? I'm aware of Lamb's underperformance-which is why I'm not so sure that he would be the best (or better) candidate for Democrats here.

The best example is in Pennsylvania: Matt Cartwright. While his overperformance wasn’t as impressive as previous ones, it’s clear he still has some crossover appeal. There are some others (DeFazio, Jones, Kim is part of the CPC), but I think it’s clear that ideology is not the key factor in electoral performance.

Not sure which Jones you mean (if it is Doug Jones, he got destroyed in the GE once he ran against a normal Republican), but I wouldn't call Andy Kim a Berniecrat or even necessarily a progressive.  He seems like a pretty generic Obama-era establishment Democrat.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

We’re still making electability arguments? Even when several progressive Democrats overperformed Biden and quite a few moderate Democrats (including Lamb) underperformed him? I could easily see Lamb being a Patrick Murphy-esque dud as a Senate candidate, so I don’t get why people are so sure he’d be such a terrific candidate, but either way, primaries should be about who has the best ideas and is the best at selling them, i.e. a time for debate, not a time to shut down the debate because we “know” who the most electable candidate is. I’d obviously prefer Lamb to a Republican, but Democrats should not want another Sinema in the Senate.

I mean, if we're making arguments about who is best at effectively selling their views then WWC LARPer John Fetterman shouldn't even be seriously considered for the nomination.  I mean, he's run a pretty weak campaign, already proven himself a lazy candidate who regularly takes votes for granted (to say nothing of his disastrous handling of the shotgun controversy).  

I’d agree that Fetterman’s campaign hasn’t been great so far, but I think the electability argument is used more against Kenyatta, who I’d be perfectly happy with.

As would I

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I am shocked, shocked I tell you, that an Fetterman internal showed a good result for Fetterman

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I guess right now I'm Kenyatta > Arkoosh > Fetterman

Lamb is the wildcard. I'd probably put him first then, but I'm not sure. I would really love for PA to break some real progressive ground with Kenyatta.

You want PA to break "real progressive ground" (with a candidate who's narrowly less progressive than Fetterman) but would throw that out the window when Lamb runs?

Supporting Manchin Jr. to own the Bros

Err…Lamb supports nuking the filibuster and generally votes the party line

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I guess right now I'm Kenyatta > Arkoosh > Fetterman

Lamb is the wildcard. I'd probably put him first then, but I'm not sure. I would really love for PA to break some real progressive ground with Kenyatta.

You want PA to break "real progressive ground" (with a candidate who's narrowly less progressive than Fetterman) but would throw that out the window when Lamb runs?

Supporting Manchin Jr. to own the Bros

Err…Lamb supports nuking the filibuster and generally votes the party line

Sinema generally voted the party line too when she was in the House.

Not as much as you might think though.  At the time, folks largely dismissed it as “something, something you just oppose progressives,” but I was saying back in 2018 that we should run Greg Stanton or even roll the dice on a slightly past sell-by-date candidate like Phil Gordon rather that nominating Sinema.  All the warning signs were there: she went out of her way to ingratiate herself with the Koch brothers’ political network and to a somewhat lesser degree the Chamber of Commerce crowd in general, she was a #ModerateHero in the House, she had no real ideological consistency, she moved to the right as the election cycle started up, etc.

The warning signs were all there with Sinema for anyone paying attention, but the left-wing activist crowd went into overdrive to clear the field for her b/c she was an openly bisexual non-thiest.  That one wasn’t on the DNC, they were pushing Mark Kelly in 2018, but he got boxed out and a Koch brothers meat-puppet waltzed into the Democratic nomination on the back of dumb virtue-signaling.  

If anything, Conor Lamb seems more likely to shift even further to the left once elected.  He’s doing the opposite of what Sinema did.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I don't want to nominate Lamb. We don't need another Sinema.

He objectively isn’t one

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I wouldn't be surprised if Biden endorses Lamb, assuming he endorses anyone in the primary.

Biden said the Lamb reminds him of his son Beau, which he also said about Buttigieg.

While he is more moderate than Fetterman or Kenyatta, he wouldn't be another Manchin or Sinema. He'd be more like a Booker, Klobuchar, or Gillibrand.

Lamb's voting record is similar to Sinema's and Angus King's. Booker, Gillibrand, and even Biden when he was in Congress were way more progressive than him.



He seems like an unnecessary pain in office with a mixed record electorally having underperformed Biden last year.

Biden won by 3, Lamb won by 2. It was basically the same

If Lamb only won by two in a D+3 year, he’s not winning statewide in what likely will be a R+0 or worse year.  Unless his district gets materially worse for him, he should just run for re-election.  I don’t believe any Dem can win the PA Senate seat in 2022.  No need to throw away a House seat for that.  Dems have nothing to lose with Fetterman.

Can't really extrapolate his district performance to the entire state.

You can’t.  I’m just saying that his performance in 2020 does not indicate that he has some magic power that can allow him to defy gravity in a statewide race in what is likely to be at least a slightly Republican year.

His performances in 2018 and especially the special election were pretty impressive

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

I wouldn't be surprised if Biden endorses Lamb, assuming he endorses anyone in the primary.

Biden said the Lamb reminds him of his son Beau, which he also said about Buttigieg.

While he is more moderate than Fetterman or Kenyatta, he wouldn't be another Manchin or Sinema. He'd be more like a Booker, Klobuchar, or Gillibrand.

Lamb's voting record is similar to Sinema's and Angus King's. Booker, Gillibrand, and even Biden when he was in Congress were way more progressive than him.



He seems like an unnecessary pain in office with a mixed record electorally having underperformed Biden last year.

Biden won by 3, Lamb won by 2. It was basically the same

If Lamb only won by two in a D+3 year, he’s not winning statewide in what likely will be a R+0 or worse year.  Unless his district gets materially worse for him, he should just run for re-election.  I don’t believe any Dem can win the PA Senate seat in 2022.  No need to throw away a House seat for that.  Dems have nothing to lose with Fetterman.

Can't really extrapolate his district performance to the entire state.

You can’t.  I’m just saying that his performance in 2020 does not indicate that he has some magic power that can allow him to defy gravity in a statewide race in what is likely to be at least a slightly Republican year.

His performances in 2018 and especially the special election were pretty impressive

Both in a good Dem environment. 

Even factoring that in, they were both impressive performances.  Good year or not, Lamb had no business winning that special on paper.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Lamb will announce next Friday.

Glorious news

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Fetterman is a Randy Bryce 2.0, a carciture of a working class democrat that all metropolitan democrats think is exactly what they need to win back rural and working class areas due to this aesthetics despite his policy and rethoric being indistrigushable from a normal progressive. and are then suprised when he flops among those voters.

Fetterman's main issue seems to be legal weed which while broadly popular isn't really an important issue that will allow him to make gains among trump voters. He has never run in actual competitive election beyond his LG primary where he was the sole western PA canidate against 4 philly canidates and his braddock mayor primary.  Braddock is a town that gave Joe Biden 90% of their vote, so it's hardly any indication of cross-over support.

Connor Lamb on the other hand flipped a trump +20% district against a fairly normal repubclain candidate and won another Trump district by double digits in 2018 an incredibly strong perfomance. Even in 2020 his vote share was higher than Biden showing proof that he is able to win over trump and non-democratic voters, despite his margin being lower due to his republcian opponent outperforming trump.

What? No. No. Silly silly comparison.

Randy Bryce was a multiple times failed candidate who came out of nowhere to challenge the House Speaker, why the Wisconsin Democrats got behind this is beyond me, but he did. His past was thoroughly exposed and he was defeated handily. The problem with Randy Bryce was that he was not a known quantity, yes he was picked up by out of state liberals who saw in him a stereotype of the WWC, thinking he could win back Trump Democrats. But the problem is that he came completely out of left field.

Fetterman is a known quantity, literally the current Lieutenant Governor of a large state, and has statewide campaign experience, and by all accounts is trusted and liked by the state party establishment. While it's true he has no proven electoral edge, the idea that his ideology is indistinguishable from an out of state liberal isn't true either, given John's tack on fracking.There is a cheap, lame attempt to turn John Fetterman into Randy Bryce, fortunately the comparison falls to pieces at the slightest scrutiny.

I think the more important point here is that Fetterman, like Bryce, is a caricature of what Dems in blue states think Trump voters look like, and what they want their politicians to look like. "Wow this guy is big, tatooed, and dresses like an auto mechanic - he can definitely swing Trump voters!" Meanwhile their real strength is actually on Twitter, with the meme crowd. Yes, they obviously have different electoral records, but I think Liberal Hack's point still very much stands.

I have no idea how "Fetterman's strength is in Twitter" given that he has very real, very important relationships with Allegheny Democrats, labor, and Governor Wolf.

Wolf isn’t even making an endorsement and there’s been plenty of talk about Fetterman’s lazy campaign (which had cost him endorsements before Lamb even got in).  As for Allegheny, we’ll see who the Pittsburgh Democratic machine ends up backing at the end of the day.  My money’s on Lamb.  Fetterman obviously isn’t a human dumpster fire like Bryce, but it’s certainly not an unfair or off-base comparison by any stretch of the imagination.  

The odds of Fetterman significantly underperforming in the GE are definitely better than the odds of him over-performing generic D.  And again, fundraising aside, he’s run a pretty crappy campaign so far.  While I wouldn’t put money on it, it’s not even hard to imagine a scenario where Arkoosh or even Kenyatta becomes the strongest anti-Lamb candidate and Fetterman kinda just fizzles out.

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Would Lamb eliminate the filibuster?

Yes, he’s been pretty vocal about that

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Not surprised to see Conor Lamchin go along with Pelosi's Betrayal.

There is no universe where Lamb is even remotely comparable to Manchin.  And there was nothing wrong with that Tweet. 

[Chancellor Tanterterg]

Not surprised to see Conor Lamchin go along with Pelosi's Betrayal.

There is no universe where Lamb is even remotely comparable to Manchin.  And there was nothing wrong with that Tweet.  

One is a clown that masturbates over bipartisanship, whines about soshulizum like a Republican, and will gladly sell out the will of his constituents and the Democratic Party for donorbux.

The other is Joe Manchin.

I consider you a friend and I say this with all due respect, but I genuinely have no idea what you’re even talking about.  From everything I’ve read, the Manchin-Lamb comparison makes about as much sense as insisting a cow is really a walnut.  Lamb has been nothing but a team player who has backed progressive policies and moved to the left once he got elected.  He didn’t try to screw us with BBB and while you may prefer Fetterman, Lamb would be a solid addition to the Senate Democratic Caucus in his own right (and a committed vote for abolishing the filibuster).  

Other than not participating in meaningless virtue-signaling over a pot bill that was clearly DOA no matter what he did, I can’t even think of any votes he’s cast that would give progressives a legitimate cause for complaint.  I could be missing something (in which case please fill me in), but otherwise this is pretty silly.  Like, I get that you want Kenyatta or Fetterman, but come on.