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« on: October 10, 2018, 11:34:08 AM »

"They are the only pollster with a Trump approve above 50 - if you believe that then sure, believe the GCB is tied right now"

As someone born in 1994, Trump is easily the greatest President in my lifetime. I'd say he edges out every other President since Eisenhower as well. Maybe even the best since Teddy Roosevelt. I honestly consider him to be one of those "more-than" Presidents. Ones who go on to be national cultural icons who have holidays dedicated for them.

So... that isn't too unbelievable for me.
Yeah, he's so great every intellectual ranks him down.


then those intellectuals are mistaken

Anyway, @Ontario Progressive: "The guy unironically thinks socialists should vote for the GOP "to stick it to the Democrats", even though Republicans constantly use their ideology as an insult and have the exact opposite priorities of socialists on both economic and social issues."

If the Republicans win on November 6, the Democratic Party will be encouraged to transform even further along the lines of Democratic Socialism. It's that simple.

 brittain33:I would appreciate it if you changed your avatar to blue. My ideas need as much encouragement as they can get.

100% sure you were the guy who kept saying for like a week over the summer the Dems were doomed b/c muh #WalkAway...and then disappeared around the time it came out that #WalkAway was invented by Russian internet trolls at their government’s behest.  Funny how you popped up again a month before the election to encourage folks to vote Republican Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1 on: October 10, 2018, 11:36:39 AM »

@jdb: You're confusing me with someone else. I first registered in the summer, but only started discussing the midterms recently. I do believe I get mixed up sometimes with that 'MillennialModerate' guy from Massachusetts.

Stop trying to make "#walkaway" happen people, please.

The #walkaway phenomenon is a real thing. Keep in mind that it's more of a slow but steady trickle over a span of many years, not a sudden jump since 2016. I started losing faith in the Democratic Party around 2012, but not as much for the American Left. Certain shifts in the American Left that started in 2014 was what killed it all, though I definitely wasn't going to embrace the Republicans at that time either, but I did consider myself libertarian-ish. Trump in 2016 and the left's behavior since then was what really put the nail in the coffin, but I'm not quite ready to be a full fledged Republican unless they stop being the party of Reagan (the mythologized version), George W. Bush, Rick Santorum, etc.

If you take a look at the #walkaway facebook group, you'll see varying stories from all sorts of people. Those people aren't necessarily going to vote for the Republicans on November 6, but they won't give the Democrats votes either. Arguably, you won't need them if turnout for the Democrats remains high and turnout for the Republicans has been mediocre as it has been for these past few special elections. That doesn't mean that people aren't abandoning the Democratic Party and the left, it just means that a greater portion of the people who vote in these elections are energized progressives and Democrats, while an even larger number of people who *might* have voted for the Republican stayed home for varying reasons. Sometimes the reason is as sad as simply not knowing that there was an election that day.

Anyway, I don't see what's so bad about critiquing one's parents and highlighting their conduct as indicative of the country's current polarized and vicious nature,  if they went so out of their way to slight your political career.
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« Reply #2 on: October 10, 2018, 01:20:02 PM »

I didn't "disappear" (got a life outside of this forum, after all) and #walkaway was never proven to be Russian lol. I also didn't say that the Democrats were necessarily 'doomed' because of it. They can still win due to high turnout combined with mediocre GOP turnout.

I stand behind every word I said in that post.
As someone who moved from lifelong Dem -> Independent as part of the #DemExit movement, and as someone who will be voting republican straight ticket to combat what has become an unrecognizable Democratic party (between moving hard left on social issues and immigration, campaigning hard on identity politics, pushing the Russian nonsense and now the Kav garbage), people should ignore #WalkAway at their own peril. Midterm fundamentals make it an uphill battle to hold the House, but we have to put up as much of a fight as we can.

(It's interesting how it's always "the Russians" pushing precisely every talking point that is troublesome for the DNC.)

Is it “DemExit” or “WalkAway?”  I’m afraid all these fake concern-troll “movements” by people who were never Democrats to begin with kinda start to blur together after a while.  I can’t keep track of what the kids are calling it these days.  

Btw, technically I’m not ignoring #WalkAway, so much as calling BS on it.  I’m directly calling in a sloppy and rather pathetic attempt by Russia to replicate their 2016 success in manipulating the political process.  It’s about as likely to be a real movement as Chechnya is to overthrow Kadyrov’s puppet regime and #WalkAway from Russia before 3:00 EST today.
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