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« on: December 07, 2017, 05:43:12 PM »

A bunch of Democrats trying to be populist heroes called for the new tolls on I-66 to be suspended.

Horrible. Congestion pricing is the way I-66 traffic gets better. Sad to see Democrats pander to people who work in D.C. but are too pretentious to take the Metro. I'm deeply disappointed in my Delegate-elect. Wulfric mode: I'll have revoke my endorsement of Jennifer Wexton until she stops these shenanigans.

40$ fees are utterly ridiculous

I don't really have a dog in this fight, but $40 is crazy.
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« Reply #1 on: December 07, 2017, 05:53:53 PM »

A bunch of Democrats trying to be populist heroes called for the new tolls on I-66 to be suspended.

Horrible. Congestion pricing is the way I-66 traffic gets better. Sad to see Democrats pander to people who work in D.C. but are too pretentious to take the Metro. I'm deeply disappointed in my Delegate-elect. Wulfric mode: I'll have revoke my endorsement of Jennifer Wexton until she stops these shenanigans.

40$ fees are utterly ridiculous

That was only the price of them at peak congestion... in general they were lower. Here's the more important point: solo drivers were BANNED from I-66 inside the Beltway for decades! The amount of people truly affected by this negatively is smaller than you think. If you live in Virginia and work in DC, you were probably already taking the Metro or carpooling to take use the HOV lanes on I-66.

Also the tolls are operated by the state, not some private firm. All of the money is going directly back into I-66 improvements. Some people must think we should just have 14 lane-wide highways like they do in L.A so everyone can drive. Too bad!

Don't get me wrong, I don't really understand why anyone wouldn't just take the metro (speaking from personal experience, the D.C. metro really isn't even that bad at all...confusing at first, but you figure it out soon enough), but $40.00 is still ridiculous imo.
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« Reply #2 on: December 20, 2017, 02:27:25 PM »

Such bs, they counted the ballot. The race is now a tie.

Aren't there still two or three disputed Simonds ballots?
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« Reply #3 on: December 20, 2017, 03:25:13 PM »
« Edited: December 20, 2017, 03:27:11 PM by We Have A Pope »

I think this was the wrong decision, but I can see arguments either way (even if I wouldn't be surprised if their was a political motivation here, in fairness, it's more likely than not that this was a Yancey vote even if it probably shouldn't have been counted given the uncertainty created by both candidates' names being bubbled in by whatever idiot cast this ballot).  It sucks, but it'd be hackish to pretend this was some sort of disenfranchisement of the district's voters.  The only sane way to deal with a tie is to do two more recounts and if it stays a tie then hold a second election, but the law gives the judges a good deal of leeway here.
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« Reply #4 on: December 20, 2017, 03:30:55 PM »

I think this was the wrong decision, but I can see arguments either way (even if I wouldn't be surprised if their was a political motivation here, in fairness, it's more likely than not that this was a Yancey vote even if it probably shouldn't have been counted given the uncertainty created by both candidates' names being bubbled in by whatever idiot cast this ballot).  It sucks, but it'd be hackish to pretend this was some sort of disenfranchisement of the district's voters.  The only sane way to deal with a tie is to do two more recounts and if it stays a tie then hold a second election, but the law gives the judges a good deal of leeway here.

I think a redo is a better option than drawing lots in any case.

Drawing lots is idiotic, but the law is what it is.  Then again, I prayed to God for a Doug Jones victory the day before the AL special and for a Northam victory the day before that election, so maybe it'll work this time too Tongue  Anyway, there should obviously be a redo here and in the district where the number of voters given the wrong ballots exceeded the margin of victory, but of course, that makes far too much sense.
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« Reply #5 on: December 20, 2017, 03:36:19 PM »

Not commenting on the validity of the ballot, but:

Different then the VA issue.
That person wrote in lizard people for president and senate so I’m going to guess that person is a troll.
This Virginia ballot is a typo why would someone vote for Gillespie Vogel and Adams then vote dem for the HOD? They saw they filled in the wrong box and fixed it.

Huh? You honestly think people never split their ballots at the state level? There are endless examples of Governors winning by big margins that, by your logic, should completely sweep the entire legislature because the Governor won by like 60 - 70%. People split their ballots all the time. Not all Democrats or Republicans vote straight ticket, and in some cases there are substantial cross over votes. Wyoming or Hawaii 2006 are good examples, but there are many, many more.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wyoming_gubernatorial_election,_2006
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hawaii_gubernatorial_election,_2006

If those Freudenthal voters voted straight Democrat as you are implying they should (as it makes no sense not to?), the entire legislature would have flipped with that margin.

No other box was filled for governor plus why would someone voted for LG and AG but not governor?
This is clearly a Gillespie/Vogel/Adams/Yancey ballot.

Again, not liking the choices for Governor is not an odd thing. I'm sure it happens in just about every gubernatorial election there is. It happens bigly in some presidential elections too, where people basically vote for everything but POTUS. 2016 is a good example.

I have in the not-too-distant past voted a ballot that included at least one Republican, one Democrat, one Libertarian, and one Independent. Smiley

I voted for a bunch of Democrats, a write-in, and several Republicans in 2016.  I voted mostly Democratic in 2017, but I voted for one Republican this year too.
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« Reply #6 on: December 21, 2017, 08:01:40 PM »

The draw a name out of a bowl thing will only be a formality,  neither candidate will accept the outcome.
you have a source for that?

Common sense
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