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« on: August 14, 2023, 11:06:55 PM »

No it doesn't go far enough. If Ukraine/the west wins outright then Russia needs to be completely removed as a threat. Russia as an entity should be abolished and the area balkanized between different groups and with significant territorial concessions to Finland, the Baltic, Ukraine etc. Demilitarized zone stretching the length of the full western border. Execution of all senior Russian government officials, ideally publicly.

It needs to be like WW2's aftermath although the Russian people must be crushed more than Germany was as they cannot be trusted like Germany was. Russia has been a malevolent force for its entire existence, this is the opportunity to set things straight with this barbarian race.

In the 1940s people would just use the same talking points about Germans though, and argue they were a militaristic race that needed to be beaten down and starved. This racism was wrong then and is wrong now.

The problem is with the political culture but there isn't anything about a race of people that makes them a threat to the rest of the world. When a country has democratic institutions and is able to benefit from cooperating with its neighbours, then that country becomes a 'good actor' and its neighbours benefit from it. The tragedy of Russian history is that there have been very few opportunities for a pro-democratic Western aligned Russia to emerge-even in the 1990s the odds of success were low and politicians in Russia and the West undermined that even more.
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