HB 21-20: Breakout Act (Final Vote)

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SENATE BILL

Be it Enacted in Both Houses of Congress Assembled,

Breakout Act

SECTION 1.
Recognizing that human nature is to want to be free,

1. No additional penalty may be imposed for successful or attempted escape from an Atlasian federal or military prison, provided no human being is intentionally physically harmed during the attempt, with the following exceptions:
a. Prisoners may be fined for an amount not exceeding the cost to repair any part of a prison facility that was damaged during the escape attempt.
2. Crimes committed while an escaped prisoner is on the run may be prosecuted accordingly.

People's Regional Senate
Passed 5-0 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,

House of Representatives

Sponsor: razze
House Designation: HB 21-20

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This needs a sponsor.

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This needs a sponsor.

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24 hours to object to Representative razze sponsoring this.

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Representative razze is recognized as the sponsor and is invited to speak on this bill.

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razze?

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While I'm usually progressive on criminal justice issues, I'm skeptical of this.

I'll repeat what I said in Laborcord on this. I think escaping from prison is itself a harmful action, one that causes significant trouble for law enforcement and undermines the rule of law. I am pretty unconvinced by the 'everyone wants to be free' argument, some laws inevitably will be disliked by those who have to obey them but nonetheless are good for society. I am more open to the points that it doesn't lead to an increase in escape rates. However, it also seems intuitive to me that people would have more incentive to escape if there was no or less punishment. Are there any studies that control for just the factor of laws around escaping? And going back to my first point, even if there were no effect on escape rates I would still be open to having the punishment in place anyway. While criminal justice is a balancing act and currently in the irl US the balance is tilted too far in favor of punishment and against rehabilitation, punishment is still a valid factor. Of course, if the House does pass this it should be amended.

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So what is going on with this?

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So what is going on with this?

I believe we are supposed to be voting on whether or not to table.

The tabling motion has not been seconded yet I believe so no vote on that. I would personally prefer to see an amendment first anyway.

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So what is going on with this?

I believe we are supposed to be voting on whether or not to table.

The tabling motion has not been seconded yet I believe so no vote on that. I would personally prefer to see an amendment first anyway.

It was seconded by RC, but I agree with you that we should wait for the amendment.

My interpretation of what RC said after reading it and asking him is that he said he might second the tabling motion in the future but isn't doing so rn (due to the possibility of an amendment)

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24 hours to object to Blair’s amendment.

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Ok so yes the amendment is adopted with no objection. 24 hours to object to the final vote motion.

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With no objection, a final vote has begun on this bill. Representatives have 72 hours to vote Aye, Nay or Abstain.

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This bill has passed 4-3-1-1.
Aye; 4 (tack50, razze, Elcaspar, thumb21)
Nay; 3 (ReaganClinton, fhtagn, LouisvilleThunder)
Abstaining; 1 (Blair)
Not voting;  1 (lfromnj)