Bernie Sanders 2020 campaign megathread v2 (pg 77 - declares victory in Iowa)

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Bernie's odds look grim, he has a relatively high floor but low ceiling, and most winnable voters have gone to other candidates. His numbers may gradually decline over the coming months.

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I think Warren has more of an ability to capitalize on early state wins to get a majority than Bernie does.

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Bernie probably needs New Hampshire more than any other state.

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https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/john-kass/ct-bernie-sanders-cnn-kass-20200116-avuaiaxbfvdkbb2w6y4yoiafuq-story.html

But even a conservative like me can see that Sanders was cheated out of the Democratic presidential nomination the last time, with the Democratic National Committee rigging the whole thing for Hillary Clinton. And now it’s happening again.

are we really this stupid

My opinion is some of the DNC’s actions and attitudes were inappropriate and they probably were biased against Bernie, but they did not rig the primary. And if the DNC was completely neutral, Hillary would probably still have won the nomination.

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That feeling when all those repressed 2016 memories come flying back. Still planning on voting for Sanders if he's the nominee, but I wont be happy about it.

Edit: Like, I'll get over it. But I think some of us forget how heated the 2016 primary got. And most of that heat didn't come from the Hillary camp.

Oh please, the 2016 primary was barely even heated. It wasn't even the most heated 2016 primary (the Republican primary was significantly worse in that front).

If you want a heated primary, take a look at the 2008 Democratic primary where both the Obama and Clinton campaigns just spent weeks constantly going on press conferences with pretty nasty attacks against each other.

I think the difference between 2008 and 2016 was how prevalent social media was in 2016 compared to 2008. Hillary was constantly smeared from both the left and the right during 2016. Yeah, Bernie himself didn't have a huge part in it, but his surrogates and supporters certainly did.

The 2016 Republican primary was in 2016 though too. Bernie never said Hillary was "utterly amoral" (Ted Cruz on Trump), or that her "domestic policies would lead to recession" and "foreign policies would make America and the world less safe" (Mitt Romney on Trump), as just some examples of the common insanely negative (but true) rhetoric Republicans used against Trump.