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« on: August 27, 2019, 11:26:50 PM »

I thought people didn't like Boris, yet recent polls show a big lead for the Tories with a clear majority. He better call a special election ASAP.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election
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« Reply #1 on: September 02, 2019, 12:36:02 PM »

It sounded like the intended audience of that speech was a dozen Conservative MPs. Why bother with a press conference?
Apparently they were all in the backyard?

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« Reply #2 on: September 09, 2019, 10:36:29 AM »
« Edited: September 09, 2019, 10:52:02 AM by Devout Centrist »

I think the most likely outcome is that Boris simply chooses to ignore the Benn Act. This is blatantly illegal, of course, but would anything really happen to him?
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« Reply #3 on: September 09, 2019, 12:44:57 PM »

I think the most likely outcome is that Boris simply chooses to ignore the Benn Act. This is blatantly illegal, of course, but would anything really happen to him?

He could be impeached from office by a vote of parliament, expelled from parliament, and/or have a vote of no confidence passed against his government.

Also, if Johnson (or anyone, really) violated the Benn Act they could face up to 15 years in prison and be liable for civil penalties for any damages incurred as a result of their crime. Civil penalties could also apply to anyone found to have conspired to aid Johnson in his violation of the law - that includes MPs and special advisers working in Downing Street.
Oh I'm aware that there are potential consequences for Johnson's inaction. My concern is, will those consequences materialize?

I suppose were Johnson to ignore the Benn Act, the opposition would call a vote of no confidence. But could they form a government in time? You'd think that the terrible prospect of a 'no deal' Brexit would bring them together, but I have my doubts.
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« Reply #4 on: September 09, 2019, 01:30:54 PM »

My concern is, will those consequences materialize?

If this all amounted to active law-breaking, then, yes. The British political system has its problems, but a lack of a strong State/government distinction is not one of them.
Fair enough. Are there any other tactics that Johnson is exploring?
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2019, 12:45:00 AM »

I rather agree. It would be nice to see the Tories blow another double digit polling lead.
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« Reply #6 on: October 01, 2019, 02:05:26 PM »

So, uh, looks like Johnson’s gonna be PM on October 31st
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