DC Unrest Megathread

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Saw some comments on Twitter referring to this as a "Mountain Dew Putsch." Seems pretty apt.

[Tartarus Sauce]

I had this question a couple weeks ago and I don't think I got an answer--can anyone be preemptively pardoned? I mean, someone must be convicted of a specific crime before being given the get-out-of-jail-free card, right?

No, they don't have to be convicted; see Ford's pardon of Nixon.

Carter also blanket-pardoned a bunch of draft dodgers, which is one thing people are worried Trump might do with the Capitol terrorists.

I believe in that scenario it’s actually possible for the rioters to be tried in Congress considering they quite literally obstructed their proceedings and a pardon wouldn’t shield them from congressional jurisdiction.

[Tartarus Sauce]

The most galling part about the Congressmen getting bent out of shape over the metal detectors is that they have routinely passed legislation subjecting American citizens to these kinds of security checks in the public domain, but then throw a tantrum when the security state imposes itself on their own workplace.

[Tartarus Sauce]

The most galling part about the Congressmen getting bent out of shape over the metal detectors is that they have routinely passed legislation subjecting American citizens to these kinds of security checks in the public domain, but then throw a tantrum when the security state imposes itself on their own workplace.

They have to go through security like everyone else at airports. The difference between them and you is that they are members of Congress, not a visitor or staff. The buildings were literally built for them (in their capacity as the people's representatives, of course). Also, 535 publicly-known members of Congress is an infinitely smaller security risk than the many thousands of staff and visitors that enter the Capitol during a single term.

Fair point, it's just the image of it all that smacks of impudence.

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https://twitter.com/USA_Polling/status/1349450495430184960

Presumably, folks on the left are split between "no" and "unsure" because many of typical folks have no idea who or what "antifa" is since, well, it's not really a thing except in the right wing media.

You also have to assume that the vast majority of the 37% who answered "yes" are lying. They know damn well Antifa wasn't involved, but say so simply in an attempt to take all of the rightful blame off trump/republicans. I don't know how many times we have to see crazy poll results like this to internalize the fact that republican/conservatives bring nothing to the table but bad faith, lies and disingenuous "beliefs".

Belief as attire.

It's like when they conducted a study where they would present pictures of crowds from Obama's inauguration and Trump's inauguration without any context and Republican participants correctly identified the photo of Obama's as containing a larger crowd, but then most of them flipped their answers after being told what was being shown in the photos.

Trump supporters have demonstrated a habit of engaging in this kind of blatant acceptance of obvious falsehoods as a means of affirming their own partisan identity and signaling it to others. It's an integral characteristic of their political tribe, a means of expressing their allegiance.