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Tartarus Sauce
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« on: March 21, 2017, 03:03:26 PM »

So what happens if it's voted down in the House?  Do we get a Plan B on health reform, or does the GOP simply move on to some other issue?

Their entire agenda gets f'ed. They were planning on tackling tax reforms, an equally contentious issue, after their healthcare bill, and the current plan on tackling that is contingent upon their Obamacare replacement successfully being passed through budget reconciliation.
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« Reply #1 on: March 23, 2017, 12:51:08 PM »

Sounds like even if they give the Freedom Caucus all they want, the moderates will then walk away. Almost no way to needle this through.

And even if they somehow succeed, the senate will just kill the bill on its own and put forward its own bill.  What's the point of all this?

Trump and Ryan showing to the world that at least they had been serious about repealing Obamacare.

Is that going to be their argument in 2018?  "Vote for us because we were serious about repealing Obamacare"?

It seems like they haven't really any alternatives.

Unfortunately for them, voters don't provide mulligans for "trying."
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Tartarus Sauce
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« Reply #2 on: March 23, 2017, 01:52:29 PM »

Looking forward to an unsuccessful vote tonight
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« Reply #3 on: March 23, 2017, 02:53:35 PM »

This won't get any easier for them.
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« Reply #4 on: March 24, 2017, 12:08:13 PM »

This whole thing is collapsing before our very eyes.
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« Reply #5 on: March 24, 2017, 12:34:40 PM »

As a Democrat, there is absolutely no way I could have asked for this to go any better. A collosal and high-profile failure at the highest levels of Republican governance regardless of how the vote eventually goes, all without anyone actually losing their healthcare or actually getting Obamacare repealed.

It's quite beautiful watching it unfold.
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« Reply #6 on: March 24, 2017, 01:54:53 PM »


Hearing from multiple GOP sources that leadership is desperate to pull this bill.
https://twitter.com/jonathanvswan/status/845340361698541568

Nothing is stopping Ryan from pulling the bill. It's ultimately his decision, not the President's.

They're damned if they do and damned if they don't. If Ryan pulls the bill, Trump will blame him. If they hold a floor vote and it fails, Trump will blame Ryan anyway. Trump has already committed to throwing Ryan under the bus, easy to do since Breitbart and Co. have been setting him up as a fall guy for months.
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« Reply #7 on: March 24, 2017, 02:51:12 PM »

It's over. The United States is now irrevocably on the march to a universal healthcare scheme. Barack Obama has won his war. The Republican Party has unconditionally surrendered on health care.

Thanks Obama!
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