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Question: Which of the following do you sanction?
#1
Removing the Confederate flag from public grounds and license plates
 
#2
Removing Confederate monuments from public grounds
 
#3
Removing Confederate names from roads, bridges, highways, schools, etc
 
#4
Getting rid of Confederate History Month
 
#5
Getting rid of Confederate holidays
 
#6
Forbidding private homeowners from flying the Confederate flag on their property
 
#7
Other (please specify, in case I missed anything)
 
#8
NOTA
 
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Tartarus Sauce
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« on: May 01, 2019, 05:15:27 PM »

Neither of the option presented counts as "erasing". Erasing the confederacy would mean suppressing the knowledge and memory of its existence. What we're discussing is repudiating it, just like (Godwin alert) removing all Nazi symbolic after the WWII was to repudiate that system, not to pretend it never existed.

This is the most annoying aspect of confederate monument defenders who scream "LIBS ARE ERASING HISTORY." Monuments are not vessels of historical knowledge so much as they are vessels of historical narratives. If you want to learn about the Confederacy, you can pick up a book about it anytime. It's a stupid argument for stupid people who only understand history through the lens of what society glorifies most publicly, which is exactly why people want the monuments to come down; they romanticize an atrocious cause completely disconnected from today's values and distort peoples' understanding of their own country's history.
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Tartarus Sauce
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« Reply #1 on: May 02, 2019, 01:09:05 AM »

All of these proposals are hateful and sickening.

The Confederacy was hateful and sickening.

The only proposal here that’s actually terrible is the one about forbidding the display of the Confederate flag on private property since it’s blatantly unconstitutional.
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Tartarus Sauce
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« Reply #2 on: May 02, 2019, 02:25:59 PM »

Let's stop pretending the Confederacy is all there is about the Southern "heritage", or even it's larger part.

And while we can't forget history, but we shouldn't idoize certain events from the past, period.

It is southern heritage, the worst part of its heritage that it should really grow out of idolizing. You don't get to chose your heritage, but you can choose which part of your heritage you're most proud of. The South can do better than the Confederacy.
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