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« on: July 08, 2019, 11:32:33 PM »

Ah, there's that call for 'unity,' again!  AOC is the only reason Pelosi still has a job and wasn't tossed out on her wrinkly ass.

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.

oh piss off troll
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2019, 11:45:58 PM »

Ah, there's that call for 'unity,' again! AOC is the only reason Pelosi still has a job and wasn't tossed out on her wrinkly ass.

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.

oh piss off troll

How is this true? I'm not sure how a freshman member of Congress could wield such influence.

AOC and the Progressive Caucus whipped up the votes to keep the queen on her throne.  Were you not paying attention this year?
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« Reply #2 on: July 09, 2019, 12:17:39 AM »

Ah, there's that call for 'unity,' again! AOC is the only reason Pelosi still has a job and wasn't tossed out on her wrinkly ass.

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.

oh piss off troll

How is this true? I'm not sure how a freshman member of Congress could wield such influence.

AOC and the Progressive Caucus whipped up the votes to keep the queen on her throne.  Were you not paying attention this year?

Yes, I'm sure Nancy Pelosi was in danger of losing her speakership until AOC so generously lent her support. No.

Yes.

I'm not responsible for your memory problems, bud.
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« Reply #3 on: July 09, 2019, 12:26:18 AM »

Ah, there's that call for 'unity,' again! AOC is the only reason Pelosi still has a job and wasn't tossed out on her wrinkly ass.

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.

oh piss off troll

How is this true? I'm not sure how a freshman member of Congress could wield such influence.

AOC and the Progressive Caucus whipped up the votes to keep the queen on her throne.  Were you not paying attention this year?

Yes, I'm sure Nancy Pelosi was in danger of losing her speakership until AOC so generously lent her support. No.

Yes.

I'm not responsible for your memory problems, bud.

Pelosi was never in danger of losing, the antics of the 7-member Justice Democrats notwithstanding.

"Never in danger of losing."  That's a new one.

You know there's a board on this forum specifically for writing your own narratives.
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« Reply #4 on: July 09, 2019, 12:33:40 AM »

Ah, there's that call for 'unity,' again! AOC is the only reason Pelosi still has a job and wasn't tossed out on her wrinkly ass.

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.

oh piss off troll

How is this true? I'm not sure how a freshman member of Congress could wield such influence.

AOC and the Progressive Caucus whipped up the votes to keep the queen on her throne.  Were you not paying attention this year?

Yes, I'm sure Nancy Pelosi was in danger of losing her speakership until AOC so generously lent her support. No.

Yes.

I'm not responsible for your memory problems, bud.
You aren't wrong, but you're implying that AOC supported Pelosi because she is pro-Pelosi. That's inaccurate.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/417520-ocasio-cortez-signal-of-support-is-good-news-for-pelosi

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“Right now, out of the field, I would say that [Pelosi] is the most progressive candidate. All of the rebellion for the Speakership are challenges to her right, and so I think it's important to communicate that,” said Ocasio-Cortez
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My standard in this is: I'm going to support the most progressive candidate that's leading the party, and right now, that is Nancy Pelosi, in terms of the running. I would like to see new, younger leadership, but I don't want new leadership that's more conservative."

I did not and do not dispute that, but that doesn't mean AOC and the progressives could not have cucked her if they had the chance.
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2019, 12:37:09 AM »

Ah, there's that call for 'unity,' again! AOC is the only reason Pelosi still has a job and wasn't tossed out on her wrinkly ass.

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.

oh piss off troll

How is this true? I'm not sure how a freshman member of Congress could wield such influence.

AOC and the Progressive Caucus whipped up the votes to keep the queen on her throne.  Were you not paying attention this year?

That really isn't what happened. No freshman has that much power. For the most part Pelosi really wasn't in any danger of losing.

Again, that Pelosi "wasn't in any danger of losing" is a new narrative and a highly suspect one.  In case you don't remember, Pelosi, Hoyer, and Clyburn are currently under a term limits deal.  Pelosi in particular needed that deal to stay in power.  The progressives could have obstructed her vote to stay in power, but they did not, thanks in part to AOC lobbying against it.

That Pelosi "wasn't in any danger of losing" has to be the biggest lie I've read on Atlas... today.
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2019, 12:47:13 AM »

Ah, there's that call for 'unity,' again! AOC is the only reason Pelosi still has a job and wasn't tossed out on her wrinkly ass.

Omar's statement in two steps short of publicly calling Pelosi a racist. If they disagree so profoundly with the party, maybe they should join the Republicans.

oh piss off troll

How is this true? I'm not sure how a freshman member of Congress could wield such influence.

AOC and the Progressive Caucus whipped up the votes to keep the queen on her throne.  Were you not paying attention this year?

Yes, I'm sure Nancy Pelosi was in danger of losing her speakership until AOC so generously lent her support. No.

Yes.

I'm not responsible for your memory problems, bud.
You aren't wrong, but you're implying that AOC supported Pelosi because she is pro-Pelosi. That's inaccurate.

https://thehill.com/homenews/house/417520-ocasio-cortez-signal-of-support-is-good-news-for-pelosi

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“Right now, out of the field, I would say that [Pelosi] is the most progressive candidate. All of the rebellion for the Speakership are challenges to her right, and so I think it's important to communicate that,” said Ocasio-Cortez
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My standard in this is: I'm going to support the most progressive candidate that's leading the party, and right now, that is Nancy Pelosi, in terms of the running. I would like to see new, younger leadership, but I don't want new leadership that's more conservative."

I did not and do not dispute that, but that doesn't mean AOC and the progressives could not have cucked her if they had the chance.
I'm sure AOC was positively itching to cuck her, but she put the American people ahead of her own political rivalries. Just imagine a MORE conservative corporate establishment puppet in that role instead of Pelosi.

Indeed.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2019, 04:54:23 PM »

On the other hand, can you just imagine where things would be if Hoyer took over?

One might say Hoyer would love to hang a progressive dissenter. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: July 12, 2019, 01:05:13 PM »



Who cares?
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« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2019, 09:00:55 AM »



The clapping emojis are cringe (like everything the Democrats do when they try to be cool), but defending Sharice Davids is great and necessary. I do wish they'd defend AOC too when the conservatives attack her with mysogenistic comments, but she should fire that staffer or give him a stern warning for attacking Davids.



It's really not.  Sharice Davids represents the worst of the left.
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« Reply #10 on: July 15, 2019, 05:33:28 AM »

Cuckgressive Democrats reject push to let 16-year-olds vote:
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The Democratic-led House on Thursday turned down a proposal to let 16-year-olds vote in federal elections, which Republicans said is a plot to put more Democrats in office.

Almost every Republican and nearly half of the Democrats voted against the amendment from Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., and it failed 126-305.

Cuckgressive Democrats help Republicans shut down AOC psychedelics research measure:
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In a sweeping rejection of what advocates regarded as a commonsense drug reform measure, a large majority of Democratic House members joined all but seven Republicans on Thursday in a vote against an amendment that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) filed to expand research into the potential benefits of psychedelic substances.

The measure, which was cleared by the House Rules Committee and was initially approved in a voice vote earlier Thursday morning, was soundly defeated in a 91 to 331 afternoon roll call vote. Democrats accounted for 148 of those “nay” votes.

Cuckgressive Democrats reject two AOC amendments to limit Trump border crisis crackdown:
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The Democratic-led House rejected Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-led efforts Friday to curb President Trump’s border crackdown.

Two amendments Ocasio-Cortez authored to a defense authorization bill failed to get enough support from her colleagues on the House floor Friday.

The Bronx Democrat, who has called for defunding ICE and disbanding the Department of Homeland Security, pushed an amendment to prohibit Trump from deploying troops on the southern border for immigration enforcement.

The House rejected her measure 179-241.

Ocasio-Cortez also sought to bar Trump from using funds to detain undocumented immigrants in Department of Defense facilities.

It failed by a 173-245 vote.

Let's just drop the illusion that the Democratic Party is center-left.  At the very best, it's a centrist party.  I'd even go as far to say that it's a conservative party in the old Burkean sense.  But it's most definitely not a social democratic party or even a center-left party.  And they'll do anything to throw progressives under the bus while convincing us that Joe Biden is the best alternative to Trump.  They'll sure as hell take your votes, though!

But no, I'm the bad guy because I dared to say that I might vote third party next year.

What.  A.  Joke.
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« Reply #11 on: July 15, 2019, 10:37:22 AM »

Cuckgressive Democrats reject push to let 16-year-olds vote:
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The Democratic-led House on Thursday turned down a proposal to let 16-year-olds vote in federal elections, which Republicans said is a plot to put more Democrats in office.

Almost every Republican and nearly half of the Democrats voted against the amendment from Rep. Ayanna Pressley, D-Mass., and it failed 126-305.

Cuckgressive Democrats help Republicans shut down AOC psychedelics research measure:
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In a sweeping rejection of what advocates regarded as a commonsense drug reform measure, a large majority of Democratic House members joined all but seven Republicans on Thursday in a vote against an amendment that Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY) filed to expand research into the potential benefits of psychedelic substances.

The measure, which was cleared by the House Rules Committee and was initially approved in a voice vote earlier Thursday morning, was soundly defeated in a 91 to 331 afternoon roll call vote. Democrats accounted for 148 of those “nay” votes.

Cuckgressive Democrats reject two AOC amendments to limit Trump border crisis crackdown:
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The Democratic-led House rejected Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez-led efforts Friday to curb President Trump’s border crackdown.

Two amendments Ocasio-Cortez authored to a defense authorization bill failed to get enough support from her colleagues on the House floor Friday.

The Bronx Democrat, who has called for defunding ICE and disbanding the Department of Homeland Security, pushed an amendment to prohibit Trump from deploying troops on the southern border for immigration enforcement.

The House rejected her measure 179-241.

Ocasio-Cortez also sought to bar Trump from using funds to detain undocumented immigrants in Department of Defense facilities.

It failed by a 173-245 vote.

Let's just drop the illusion that the Democratic Party is center-left.  At the very best, it's a centrist party.  I'd even go as far to say that it's a conservative party in the old Burkean sense.  But it's most definitely not a social democratic party or even a center-left party.  And they'll do anything to throw progressives under the bus while convincing us that Joe Biden is the best alternative to Trump.  They'll sure as hell take your votes, though!

But no, I'm the bad guy because I dared to say that I might vote third party next year.

What.  A.  Joke.

Or maybe, and here's just a mad idea I've come up with, having something pass the House doesn't automatically make it law? And putting something before a Republican Senate and President that can then tear it apart might hurt such a law if it came up under a Democratic trifecta in the future if the public reaction to it has already been defined. And maybe, and again, I'm just throwing ideas at the wall to see what sticks, Pelosi is experienced enough to know that playing into Trump's hands is the last thing the Democrats need to do right now and that whatever proposals come along need to wait until they can be something other than posturing that would be at best a net neutral for the party? And maybe even, and stop me if I'm wrong, that this grand conspiracy to disenfranchise progressives is a load of bullsh*t that only came up because Pelosi won't cower to the demands of a couple of loudmouth freshmen who give Trump ammunition every time they open their mouths?

That's all some harmless theorising.

(fwiw I would identify more with the progressives than the establishment and I definitely think the Dems need to get rid of the stupid consensus centrist crap and start acting a lot more hardline. But there's a difference between that and stupid posturing that doesn't achieve anything apart from writing GOP attack ads. And also, crying foul every time something doesn't go your way is not a great strategy to get other Democrats (i.e the ones you need to vote for progressives to win primaries) onboard.)

The House GOP after 2010 passed a whole bunch of garbage that never reached the Senate, let alone become law.  Bottom line: the opposition's role, when they control one or both chambers of Congress, is not only to pass whatever the president will sign but to preview their agenda for the country if they retake power.  Democrats are either too chickensh!t or too detached from their own voters to do so.

Because it doesn't really matter what the Democrats do.  They'll be labeled communists in GOP attack ads regardless of what they pass or who they run.  To think otherwise, especially after the Obama years, is incredibly naive.  So you know what?  Let them run the damn attack ads.  Let them run against a higher minimum wage, lowering the voter age, stopping Trump's immigration demagoguery and militancy, and other things that the public doesn't agree with them on.

I don't think Pelosi is a bad politician, by the way.  I thought she was the most effective Speaker of the House since John McCormack.  But if she and the rest of the establishment wanted unity, they would stop poo-pooing all of the good ideas of the progressive wing of the party because BRONX LADY BAD and they don't want their own power over the party challenged by anyone.
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