Reaction if a Whitmer 2028 candidacy ends up flopping

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It's True Whitmer can be deconstructed by a competent republican candidate...which is why she should pressure Biden to step down and run this year because the current batch of GOP candidates are absolute trash

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Expected.  Winning a Democratic primary is about putting different ideological/ethnic coalitions together, and the primary calendar/delegate allocation rules make winning Black Southerners vastly overpowered.  Whitmer is a candidate for Chicago wine moms, but when did they ever decide a Democrat primary?

Raphael Warnock or Wes Moore, 2028!   

I agree she'd lose to someone like Warnock in 2028 but you can't convince me Harris would be favored against her. All Whitmer would have to do is argue she's more "electable" than Harris which would be fairly easy to do. Black voters seem to be drawn to that argument

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She would flop badly honestly, Whitmer would fail miserably with black voters which make up the structure of the Dem primary. Dread from it, run from it, a Wes Moore 2028 ticket arrives all the same (if he wants it).

Whitmer has the electability card though because she won by big margins in a state that was only narrowly democratic for president in 2016 and 2020. That seems to appeal to AA's

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Wes Moore is so overrated. What accomplishments does he have? Oh, he's the governor of one of the bluest states in the country woop dee doodle doo. If you want someone who really has appeal to black voters, Warnock wins hands down

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Expected.  Winning a Democratic primary is about putting different ideological/ethnic coalitions together, and the primary calendar/delegate allocation rules make winning Black Southerners vastly overpowered.  Whitmer is a candidate for Chicago wine moms, but when did they ever decide a Democrat primary?

Raphael Warnock or Wes Moore, 2028!   

Black southerns support the "establishment". If Harris doesn't run in 2024, I could see black voters 40+ supporting Whitmer. But that depends on Warnock not running

What makes Whitmer part of the "establishment"?  She's the progressive governor of a Midwestern state; if anything, she is more Sanders/Warren than Biden/Harris.

Black Southerners are mostly low-information voters who strongly weigh visible idpol factors.  Biden didn't win South Carolina because he's "the establishment", he won because of nearly 100% name recognition and the warm, fuzzy vibes that came with being Obama's VP.  Polls showed that, in a sans-Biden race, most Black voters would have supported Sanders.

Sanders literally endorsed her opponent in 2018 lol