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Question: Do you support Biden's recent immigration actions ?
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Yes
 
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No
 
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Maybe ?
 
#4
Yes, but it's only temp. A comprehensive long term solution is needed.
 
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Hermit For Peace
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Junior Chimp
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« on: October 05, 2023, 10:08:17 PM »


Yes. We don't need to be inundated with numbers of people from other countries that are TOO massive to handle. We just can't save the world. We have a right to protect our borders.
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hermit
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: October 06, 2023, 10:38:01 AM »

What we need to do is address the reasons why they are here more directly.

That's what I keep thinking. Go to the root cause instead of spending so much money putting bandaids on the problem. But alas, we're not there yet. And the countries of origin aren't there yet either. So we will keep having the problem of a massive border influx until we all get it together.

Until then, we can't feel guilty for protecting our borders. Again, we can't save the world.
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Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: October 06, 2023, 04:27:53 PM »

Immigration is one of the few issues I don’t agree with Biden on and think a border wall would be a good thing

I totally agree with this but this problem won’t go away until we find a way to mitigate the causes of people showing up all the time.

and STILL the question is why Democrats should alienate guys in places like Michigan and Pennsylvania just to get some guys in Texas and Florida to not vote for them anyways?

There are tons of issues where the Democrats need to draw the line on. Healthcare in general ,whether its "access" or whether people should be allowed to get it at all without going to jail, being left alone in general, especially from the NSA or FSB, keeping the country a democracy and the world safe for democracy, and things like Social Security are non-negotiable issues.

Things like immigration, and to a lesser extent, police brutality and the welfare of transgendered people, are important things that need to be addressed. However 1) society is not ready to address them, and 2) there are still a lot of practical reasons why an unapologetic blank-check approach to advocacy is not the best thing for society or even for the affected people.

So it's okay to harm marginalized people for some illusory greater good just because standing up for them is politically inconvenient?

Their own country is harming them much more than anybody else ever could. Do you ever question why these people risk their lives to come to the US? What in hell is going on in their own country? I believe that for the most part the US is a magnanimous country, but we don't have to take everyone in. We have rights. We have the right to protect the sanctity of our own borders. We aren't responsible for the world. Stop feeling guilty.
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