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Doimper
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« on: January 29, 2018, 09:11:49 PM »

Giving the sh!tty precedents set in the past few months, I think PA GOPer's throw this one to the bureaucracy of the scotus to save their a$$es again, because they appreciate a rigged system, much like MD dem legislature, egregious as well!

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thanks, we weren't capable of reading that the first time you posted it
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2018, 12:43:59 PM »

United States Supreme Court told the PA GOP to F Off!

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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2018, 01:29:01 PM »

John O'Neill, who drew Florida's current congressional and state senate maps, made a 9D-9R PA (7 safe seats for both sides and 4 that lean one way or the other, but could be won by either side) map that does better on the neutral criteria on the whole than every other plan that's been released.



He splits less counties and municipalities than any other map and ties the Senate Democrats for the fewest precinct splits. His compactness score is also better or tied than any other map in 2 of the 3 compactness score and only 0.1 off on the third. What allows his map to be more competative is he splits the City of Pittsburgh as one of his 14 municipality splits, splits Philadelphia 4 times, and Bucks as one of his county splits.  

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Here is the PVI data

I would not be shocked if we got a map that looked like this.

I like this one a lot.
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« Reply #3 on: February 17, 2018, 02:58:50 PM »

John O'Neill, who drew Florida's current congressional and state senate maps, made a 9D-9R PA (7 safe seats for both sides and 4 that lean one way or the other, but could be won by either side) map that does better on the neutral criteria on the whole than every other plan that's been released.



He splits less counties and municipalities than any other map and ties the Senate Democrats for the fewest precinct splits. His compactness score is also better or tied than any other map in 2 of the 3 compactness score and only 0.1 off on the third. What allows his map to be more competative is he splits the City of Pittsburgh as one of his 14 municipality splits, splits Philadelphia 4 times, and Bucks as one of his county splits.  

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Here is the PVI data

I would not be shocked if we got a map that looked like this.

I like this one a lot.

Of course you do. Your avatar claims you’re a Democrat. I hate this map because I”m a Republican, and this map gives Pittsburgh, Philadelphia and Democrats far more power than they deserve. Geography matters.

That’s one of many reasons why if I were writing the rules, cities would not be chopped more often than necessary as a first order, except to comply with the VRA.

Sure, and I happen to think that Republicans shouldn't get more representation because of a geographic quirk. But you are a Republican, so of course you think that people living in cities should be underrepresented.
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« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2018, 02:42:28 PM »


There's no map here. Only sadness.
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« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2018, 02:50:53 PM »


Looks like it.
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« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2018, 03:32:17 PM »

I'm most interested to see who wins the new 17th. It's a narrow Trump district but ancestrally Dem.

I think we’ll pick it up, honestly.  Curious to see if anyone (Costello?) will retire in light of the new map.

So 8 Clinton seats + Cartwright's seat + PA-17 means ceiling of 10 seats come November?

We could nab that 10 in a wave.
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« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2018, 03:40:18 PM »

Supposedly Saccone and Lamb were both drawn out of the district+

Yup, both were drawn into Doyle's Pittsburgh district.
So is this special useless or will the winner move?

If Lamb wins, I assume he's going to go for the new 17th in November. Saccone would be extremely safe in this new district, so he'll probably want to stay.
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« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2018, 03:58:10 PM »

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« Reply #9 on: February 21, 2018, 02:45:19 PM »

It looks like I’m right, my sources say the Republican-controled Pennsylvania legislature is going to seek the impeachment of all Democratic Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justices next week, thus preserving the current congressional map.

Your own wishful thinking doesn't count as a source.
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« Reply #10 on: February 21, 2018, 04:01:53 PM »

It looks like I’m right, my sources say the Republican-controled Pennsylvania legislature is going to seek the impeachment of all Democratic Pennsylvania Supreme Court Justices next week, thus preserving the current congressional map.

Your own wishful thinking doesn't count as a source.
It's on Daily Kos.
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2018/2/21/1743438/-Pennsylvania-Republicans-utterly-rejecting-democracy-want-to-impeach-judges-who-ordered-new-maps

This is happening. The GOP has the votes to impeach the judges and the 2 Republican judges can reverse everything. There's nothing any Democrat can do at this point other than rush the implementation.


What is going on with that dude next to Toomey? A full beard, but no sideburns?
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« Reply #11 on: February 21, 2018, 04:35:28 PM »

I don’t know anything about Edwards, but as much as I dislike Morganelli, he’s pretty much a lock in the primary and the GE under these lines unless someone really strong gets in the Democratic primary and a bunch of the non-Morganelli folks drop out.  I can’t really think of such a candidate atm, so we’re probably stuck with Morganelli.  On the bright side he’s probably gonna make this an easy pickup, so there’s that Tongue

As someone unfamiliar with this person - what did he do (or not do)?

He's a perennial statewide candidate who campaigned for Pat Toomey in 2016 after losing the primary for Attorney General.

Ah, the Manchin Maneuver.
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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2018, 01:49:11 PM »

The map is DOA.



Justice Alito already shot this down, this is nothing.

LimoLiberal will find any excuse to piss himself.
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« Reply #13 on: March 11, 2018, 10:30:39 PM »

I doubt PA having at-large voting for 18 seats, will result in 18 Dems, but Dems (unlike Repubs) actually care about having fair maps.

Not really. MD is egregious.

Not really. Andy Harris's district easily could've been gerrymandered into oblivion if the legislature had wanted.
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