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Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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« on: January 22, 2023, 06:42:30 PM »

You’re telling me a trans-identifying female teenager seems to have a confused sense of identity that’s constantly in flux (especially related to issues of sex), is autistic and has an array of other mental health problems exacerbated by the pandemic and other external factors, and basically seems to be a textbook case of rapid onset gender dysphoria???

I am shocked. SHOCKED!

This kid is almost certainly NOT really trans and certainly should NOT be allowed to mutilate her body by cutting her breasts off and going on dangerous hormones. Certainly not while underage. And certainly the parents, who know the kid better than the school, should not be kept in the dark about everything as she slips farther away from them and her old identity (something she might very well come to regret) and is living a double life. Especially since it does not seem like the parents are abusive or unaccepting at all.

This is one issue where I am 100% on the “conservative” side, and indeed the more I read about it the more entrenched I become in that position. I just don’t even see how it became a “conservative” position when it just seems like plain common sense to me. Like how can anyone possibly read about this kid and think “Yeah, clearly what’s really going on is the kid is just a man born in a female body, nothing else to see here!” Utterly insane.
First of all, "Rapid Onset Gender Dysphoria" is as real as the unicorn who visits me every tuesday to give me boxing lessons. Secondly, the "seems to be confused about his identity" came from the parents. Parents can often be uncomfortable about their kids being trans (my dad definitely was) and often have a biased and distorted picture of things. The parents refused to acknowledge his identity until they had to. This kid has been presenting as male for a while now presumably; and he's now pushing for going further with transition. And of course, having autism or mental illnesses does not magically mean someone is incapable of identifying their gender. Being uncertain and constantly changing your identified sexual orientation doesn't mean much about your gender identity. His gender identity has been pretty consistent.

Ironically in my experience most identity confusion tends to come from misidentifying dysphoria as something else(For example, sometimes I would "feel like a man" because of dysphoria, which always felt terrible and s**ty, but I usually thought this was a sign of me being a man because it didn't quite click that "feeling like a man" always causing me to feel like s**t is a sign that I'd be happier not being a man. This happened a ways into transitioning, and I went close to detransition once. After shifting masculine a bit for a day or two I went back quickly because it felt really f**king bad to be more masculine. The big sign that I was definitely trans was the increasing happiness I felt at becoming more and more feminine. If you heard about me at age 14, you would have believed the same thing about me you believe about this boy.

In general, you seem uncomfortable with transness to me. Maybe it would be helpful for us to have a chat over voice chat of some sort, to get an understanding of being trans on the human level?
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Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #1 on: January 23, 2023, 10:08:17 AM »

I miss the era where a woman could be masculine and a man feminine without being considered trans. "Gender is a social construct" and all that, remember? That was less than a decade ago. I will never understand why the left became even more rigid on gender roles than the right, but in a different way.
TIL transfem tomboys apparently don't exist.
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Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #2 on: January 25, 2023, 04:28:59 PM »

Either all of LGBT is a mental deviation/disorder, or it isn’t, I don’t know why people want to beat around the bush on this.


Only one of these four letters wants to mutilate their own body. While gender affirming care including surgery is the correct path for some, being trans has literally nothing to do with being gay or lesbian. The acronym is simply a marriage of convenience.
Mask off, much?
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Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself
omegascarlet
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,102


« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2023, 05:29:45 AM »

Either all of LGBT is a mental deviation/disorder, or it isn’t, I don’t know why people want to beat around the bush on this.


Only one of these four letters wants to mutilate their own body. While gender affirming care including surgery is the correct path for some, being trans has literally nothing to do with being gay or lesbian. The acronym is simply a marriage of convenience.
Mask off, much?

In the next sentence I literally say that mutilating your own body is the correct path for some people.
That doesn't change that you're calling it "mutilation".
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