Update Thread and Other Ramblings by BushOklahoma

[Joe Biden 2020]

We have agreed to marry, but the reason for the delay in proposing is she wants time for it to sink in before I actually pop the question.  I don't think she'll be ready by this Easter for a proposal, which I completely understand.  She wants me to wait until this fall, I wanted to do it in April, so I'm thinking about splitting the difference and making it the Fourth of July.  I'm not going to tell her, and I'll just have to take the heat for the "suprise".  I'll just have to gauge how she is doing.  But, yeah, we've effectively agreed to marry and we're unofficially engaged, we just need a little time to let it all sink in.  Instead, we are going to go out on plenty of dates and enjoy each other's company.  The wedding planning is on the back burner simmering.  We'll stir it every once in a while, and then really start preparing it in the second half of 2010 and then serve it up hot and juicy in April 2011.  By July 4, it will have been 5 1/2 months, and I think if we keep it up this strong, she'll be ready to proceed by then.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I'm falling in love with her more and more with each passing day.  We didn't see the movie today as we had planned since the show was sold out.  So, we just piddled and talked and browsed a Dollar Tree store near my house.

She is talking color theme with me now for the wedding as well as invitations or open seating.  We decided on invitations.  We are going to have a small wedding, but we're not going to skimp on it, either.

I am officially going to propose to her sometime in late June or early July, maybe July 4.  We don't have an "official" wedding date, yet, just April 2011.

[Joe Biden 2020]

OK, sorry for bringing in something from another thread, but:

My girlfriend is bi-polar....

All the more reason why you should be more cautious about rushing into marriage with her.  Does she have depressive episodes?  Has she had one since you started dating, or have you both been on a high the whole time?  You really need to know what you're getting into.  To offer a personal anecdote, I have a good friend who, after a lengthy engagement to a woman with bipolar disorder, had the wedding called off by her just three weeks before it was scheduled to take place, because of a fight they had over money.

Of course, I'm not suggesting that this is necessarily going to happen to you.  But it seems like, by rushing into discussions of marriage with her, you're increasing the risk that your first fight is going to blow up the entire relationship.

Thank you for you concern.  She has had a depressive mood since we've been together, but she snapped out of it by the next morning, so it was alright.  We've even had a minor disagreement and we both saw each other's side and I backed off a bit and everything was alright.

To address other people's earlier concerns about boredom, the conversation has dried up before and we just stayed quiet for a couple minutes and then find something else to talk about.  Sometimes we have to really reach for a conversation, but that's when we just look at each other and smile and either she will grab my hand, or I will grab hers.  Usually, the silence doesn't last long as she does like to talk.

Thanks, Morden, for your concerns about her conditions.  You had the same concerns that my mother had when she found out she was bi-polar.  That is, until she met Susan and saw her heart and her love for me.  Her attitude is a lot different now towards Susan, and for the better.  She is well-controlled on her medicine, and she never skips a dose, or her mother will club her with her cane (not literally, but figuratively).  Once in a while, her doctor likes to tweak her medicine and that sometimes makes her too hyper, and sometimes makes her sleep a lot and in a more subdued mood.  Most of the time, she's even keel, though, but I have learned what kind of mood she's in and figure it out pretty quickly after I meet her for the evening or whatever we're doing.  I am learning when to say things and when to keep things on the back burner.

The thing that all my church family and real family has noticed and really like about her is she has a real pleasant and a soft, sweet heart.  She also has a good spiritual instinct within her.  She got that from her mother.  For instance, yesterday, her mother had a lot of chest pain and stomach discomfort, and she had a feeling something was about to happen, and not anything good, either.  Lo, and behold, about midnight she got a call telling her of her aunt's passing just a few hours earlier on Saturday night.

I've had many a person tell me, most within the church and my own family, that she is good for me.  Susan's therapist and doctor has told her the same thing.

[Joe Biden 2020]

We're going to get together tomorrow night and go to my cousins' and then we're going to take another swing at Alice Saturday followed by a dinner date!!  Good thing is she is not a fancy person, so I don't have to get real fancy with the dinner!!

[Joe Biden 2020]

We're going to get together tomorrow night and go to my cousins' and then we're going to take another swing at Alice Saturday followed by a dinner date!!  Good thing is she is not a fancy person, so I don't have to get real fancy with the dinner!!

Well, we're not going to get together tonight and tomorrow doesn't look so good, either.  She is sick and I talked to her and she sounds sick, so I know that's all it is.  It's just as well because I am physically exhausted myself and wasn't up to a lot of activity.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Uh oh. For your sake, I hope she's just sick and this isn't the beginning of a disease that may plague this relationship.

No, she has had a really rough week from losing her great aunt last weekend.  She needs a rest.  Our mutual friend who knows her really well, says she is just sick and really tired more than anything.  I think give it a day or two and she'll come out of it.  Tomorrow isn't cancelled as of yet, it all depends on how she feels in the morning.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Great News!!!  She called me this morning and she feels much, much better   We are going to see Alice at 3:00 today in 3D and go to dinner afterwards.  I got smart, too, and bought the movie tickets online so we don't have any of this sold out crap that we ran into last week.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Great News!!!  She called me this morning and she feels much, much better   We are going to see Alice at 3:00 today in 3D and go to dinner afterwards.  I got smart, too, and bought the movie tickets online so we don't have any of this sold out crap that we ran into last week.

I want to warn you. I saw Alice in IMAX last weekend, and I swear I felt like I was on some sort of hallucinogenic drug. Not a good feeling either.

Reviews were pretty bad too from what I'd heard. Lots of cool special effects, but otherwise an uninteresting attempt to apply the Through the Looking Glass mythology into a Lord of the Rings style battle movie.

Well, we both LOVED Alice!!  Johnny Depp did an outstanding job in the film.  Susan is into alternate fantasy worlds like that and also loves Disney (she wants to go to Disneyland for our honeymoon).

Anyway, all is well with our relationship!!  She started talking a little deeper about the wedding and honeymoon today.  I am going to take her to buy the ring next Saturday and then I'm going to put it on her finger in June.  We're starting to talk about the attendants in the wedding, basically how many bridesmaids/groomsmen.  She's already picked out her matron of honor and I have narrowed by best man down to one with an alternate in mind.

[Joe Biden 2020]

I've been reading, but Disneyland for a honeymoon? Why not Hawaii? Or the Bahamas?

She has a brother that lives in Casa Grande, AZ and another brother near San Francisco, so we may or may not go to Disneyland, but we definitely plan to drive out to her brother in Arizona and then drive up through Arizona and California, may or may not spend a day at Disneyland, drive up to her other brother's and then drive back along I-80 through the Southern Wyoming Rockies and drop back down through Colorado and Kansas on our way back home.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Have you talked about how many kids you will have?

We haven't gotten that far, yet.

[Joe Biden 2020]

The way we're talking, she's going to be ready for a proposal sooner than she thinks.  The only thing hindering us now is she knows she wants this, but isn't sure she's quite ready for it, yet.  The way she's talking, I think she's almost ready, but just doesn't want to admit it quite yet.  I'm planning a May or June proposal.  I'm leaning more toward mid to late May because I am going to want some news to share when I go on my New Mexico vacation Memorial Day weekend to visit my great aunt and mom's cousins and my second cousins.

[Joe Biden 2020]

The way we're talking, she's going to be ready for a proposal sooner than she thinks.  The only thing hindering us now is she knows she wants this, but isn't sure she's quite ready for it, yet.  The way she's talking, I think she's almost ready, but just doesn't want to admit it quite yet.  I'm planning a May or June proposal.  I'm leaning more toward mid to late May because I am going to want some news to share when I go on my New Mexico vacation Memorial Day weekend to visit my great aunt and mom's cousins and my second cousins.

How many pets are you thinking about when you two move in together?  One dog one cat?

Most likely as she is inseperable from her dog and i am inseperable from my cat.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Have you talked about how many kids you will have?

We haven't gotten that far, yet.

EASY BOY!

We haven't gone any farther than the honeymoon, yet.  Kids are probably at least a couple years after that.

[Joe Biden 2020]

The way we're talking, she's going to be ready for a proposal sooner than she thinks.  The only thing hindering us now is she knows she wants this, but isn't sure she's quite ready for it, yet.  The way she's talking, I think she's almost ready, but just doesn't want to admit it quite yet.  I'm planning a May or June proposal.  I'm leaning more toward mid to late May because I am going to want some news to share when I go on my New Mexico vacation Memorial Day weekend to visit my great aunt and mom's cousins and my second cousins.

At this rate, I fully expect you to propose in the next week or two! Weren't you originally waiting until at least September or something?

I would love to propose in the next week or two, but I don't even have a ring, yet.  We were going to go out this Saturday and get it, but it's supposed to snow with 50 mph winds and highs in the 30s on Saturday, so we may have to wait until next Saturday.  While I think she will be ready sooner than she thinks, I'm not sure she's ready right now.  So, I'm going to wait until May or June.  It will be hard, but it will be good, because there are some things I need to do in my own life in the next two months.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Shouldn't the ring be something you get without consulting her?

Generally, yes, but this is going to be a somewhat non-traditional process.  For one, the groom's parents are going to pay for most of it, not the bride's mother.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Unfortunately, I had to cancel my weekend with her thanks to a BLIZZARD that is moving in.  It was 72 degrees today and we're expecting about a foot or more of SNOW tomorrow with 50 mph winds from 7:00 am Saturday to 8:00 am Sunday.  Its starting off as rain and thunderstorms right now which is cooling off the air and ground.

[Joe Biden 2020]

We are planning to go shopping next Saturday (was supposed to be today, if it weren't for the snow), and that shopping is for the ring.  She won't get the ring on her finger until late May or June, but we are going to purchase it next weekend.

[Joe Biden 2020]

We are planning to go shopping next Saturday (was supposed to be today, if it weren't for the snow), and that shopping is for the ring.  She won't get the ring on her finger until late May or June, but we are going to purchase it next weekend.

Why are you doing this together? Maybe you could just find out her ring size, and go get a nice ring so it'll be a surprise for her.

She doesn't like suprises and she told me in February she wanted to go with me to pick out the ring, so I must take her with me if I want to avoid sleeping in the doghouse immediately after we get married next April.

[Joe Biden 2020]

So the wedding date is next April?  lol

Like I said, Toyota approves.

Yes, we are looking at probably Saturday, April 2, 2011 so it can still be in the Easter season which is 3 weeks later, without intruding too much on Easter.

[Joe Biden 2020]

How soon after that can we except divorce installment?

If I have anything to say about it?  NEVER

[Joe Biden 2020]

So the wedding date is next April?  lol

Like I said, Toyota approves.

Yes, we are looking at probably Saturday, April 2, 2011 so it can still be in the Easter season which is 3 weeks later, without intruding too much on Easter.

Not even waiting until late April?  Damn son. 

We would, but April 24 is Easter Sunday AND my Grandmother's 85th Birthday and April 29 is my 29th Birthday.  So, to keep an Easter ceremony it will either be April 2 or April 9.  April 16 would be too late to get back into town after the honeymoon before Easter and my Grandma's 85th birthday celebration.  Now, we will not do a March wedding because it wouldn't seem like Easter as April would.

[Joe Biden 2020]

So the wedding date is next April?  lol

Like I said, Toyota approves.

Yes, we are looking at probably Saturday, April 2, 2011 so it can still be in the Easter season which is 3 weeks later, without intruding too much on Easter.

Not even waiting until late April?  Damn son. 

We would, but April 24 is Easter Sunday AND my Grandmother's 85th Birthday and April 29 is my 29th Birthday.  So, to keep an Easter ceremony it will either be April 2 or April 9.  April 16 would be too late to get back into town after the honeymoon before Easter and my Grandma's 85th birthday celebration.  Now, we will not do a March wedding because it wouldn't seem like Easter as April would.

Why not take a day off work and make it April 1st?

I don't want to take any chance of "I do.....April Fools!!"  I will take March 31 and April 1 off anyway to prepare for the Saturday ceremony and then take off the first half of April for the honeymoon.

[Joe Biden 2020]

So the wedding date is next April?  lol

Like I said, Toyota approves.

Yes, we are looking at probably Saturday, April 2, 2011 so it can still be in the Easter season which is 3 weeks later, without intruding too much on Easter.

Well, I wish you an early happy negative first anniversary.

Also, are you going to plan the timing of your children this way too?  "Sorry, but you can't have the baby on Thursday, because of my second cousin's 23rd birthday.  You're going to have to hold it in."

No, of course not, we're going to let the baby (or babies) come when they want to.

[Joe Biden 2020]

So the wedding date is next April?  lol

Like I said, Toyota approves.

Yes, we are looking at probably Saturday, April 2, 2011 so it can still be in the Easter season which is 3 weeks later, without intruding too much on Easter.

Not even waiting until late April?  Damn son. 

We would, but April 24 is Easter Sunday AND my Grandmother's 85th Birthday and April 29 is my 29th Birthday.  So, to keep an Easter ceremony it will either be April 2 or April 9.  April 16 would be too late to get back into town after the honeymoon before Easter and my Grandma's 85th birthday celebration.  Now, we will not do a March wedding because it wouldn't seem like Easter as April would.

Why not take a day off work and make it April 1st?

I don't want to take any chance of "I do.....April Fools!!"  I will take March 31 and April 1 off anyway to prepare for the Saturday ceremony and then take off the first half of April for the honeymoon.

But you love holidays...

You should make the entire ceremony a series of pranks and post it on YouTube.  It would be even bigger than the first couple that did Thriller as their first dance.

Right, so why not create another holiday that's unique to us?  There are three days each year I will always take off work, our anniversary (starting in 2012, of course), her birthday (October 5) and my birthday (April 29).

[Joe Biden 2020]

It looks like we're going to go shopping Friday evening instead of Saturday.