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bilaps
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« on: December 21, 2019, 08:26:38 PM »

I always believed that Democrats would try to nominate the antithesis of Donald Trump. And additionally, there's a historical pattern of electing Presidents stylistically-opposite of their predecessors (Carter>Reagan, Bush>Clinton, Bush>Obama, Obama>Trump).

Biden would fit this pattern perfectly; aside from his demographics, he couldn't be more opposite than Trump in temperament, style, beliefs, and personality.

Biden's strength in general election is perceived in the notion that he could take just enough Trump voters away from him in midwest, wwc guys to beat him by the smallest of margins just like Trump won in 2016. Recent polls have however started to put some cold water on that take and if he loses that edge what else will remain for him? He's not going to win this election based on enthusiasm or energy of the progressives or younger people. So basically his argument is fear of Trump. Good luck with that. In the same time his polling average is somewhere between 25 and 30 in dem primary. If he is at 25 instead of 30 and some polls have suggested that, with his strength in south and places like FL and VA he is going to get killed in IA, NH, NV and CA. And then, you have a "fronturunnner"who is lost 4 out of 5 contests with delegate rich CA among those practically guaranteeing a long primary until the convention. And oh boy, is he gaffe prone for that sort of campaign..
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bilaps
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« Reply #1 on: December 24, 2019, 09:03:48 AM »

Joe’s team has been ON IT with his ads lately. I bet their research is telling them what I’ve seen in South Carolina. Voters are tired of Bernie’s purity tests and nitpicking over policies that will be dead if McConnell controls the Senate. They just want Trump’s ass out. One of the main reasons Kamala abandoned attacks on Biden and focused squarely on Trump during the last months of her camapign:



LOL at thinking Biden will get some sort of bipartisan support in the Senate, how many Republicans voted for Obamacare? This ad is what you get when you actually don't have your own policies, so you have to go against opponent which isn't even his opponent yet. It reminds me of Hillary strategy to go for a win in AZ or GA and not to WI and MI. So, Biden's message is I'm not Trump and I'm not Bernie. Great stuff, it's gonna excite so many people to hand him a win in November. Bernie is on the other way ineluctable cause we tried his way in 2016 and failed. Wait.. No, he's ineluctable and will get nothing done, yet Obama and Biden did so much with a Republican Senate and a House, they confirmed so many judges and passed bold progressive laws and didn't deport immigrants at a record pace, and didn't do drone strikes at a record pace. Actually, Obama and Biden and their centrism gave us 75yr old socialist from Vermont as an almost nominee and a racist complete moron with zero experience who has the best words as a president. Good luck electing Biden in 2020. In 2024 Adolf Hitler reincarnated will probably get elected after him.
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« Reply #2 on: January 11, 2020, 10:02:20 AM »

Buttigieg has scheduled at least dozen events in IA next week, where is Joe? He needs to be on the ground while Sanders and Warren are in the senate
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« Reply #3 on: January 12, 2020, 05:48:51 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2020, 08:53:39 AM »

Biden on Morning Joe calls Mike Barnacle Joe like 3x in a minute.
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« Reply #5 on: January 25, 2020, 11:19:09 AM »

It's interesting looking at electability argument going from Biden campaign still. It's based on h2h numbers vs Trump while he's not still a nominee and from some battleground state polls. But, I would argue that his numbers in IA and NH really tell the story otherwise. Let's look at the last two A+ polls from IA, he polls at 15 and 17. He has been campaigning in Iowa, he has been on air in Iowa, he doesn't energize anyone. How the hell are you going to win general election with this level of enthusiasm is beyond me. I would take Pete and maybe even Klobuchar from the moderate lane as the more electable at this point. I would take Warren as well even though she alianated much of the Sanders supporters and practicaly ended her campaign colluding with CNN. It should be pretty clear that Sanders not Biden is the most electable now, and even Buttigieg at this point.
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