SB 117-47: The End to Medical Termination Act of 2023 - VETOED - SUSTAINED - JUDICALLY OVERTURNED

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We can look at places where euthanasia has failed people such as Canada, where instead of treating people who want and need help, they are being recommended to end their lives instead.

Euthanasia isn't as compassionate as Senator Laki is claiming it to be.

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I do live in a country where assisted euthanasia is legal, unlike some people here who clearly talk like they have no idea what euthanasia is.

With regards to Canada, i'm less familiar with it, but this bill does not tackle those issues, specific to Canada. It is generalized to a tough generalist ban towards - all forms - of euthanasia, which euthanasia in any form specifies. Don't generalize Canada's system to that of all countries.

Your country also unnecessarily kills people who are perfectly healthy:

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/23-year-old-physically-healthy-woman-euthanised-in-belgium-heres-what-happened/articleshow/94742914.cms

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I do live in a country where assisted euthanasia is legal, unlike some people here who clearly talk like they have no idea what euthanasia is.

With regards to Canada, i'm less familiar with it, but this bill does not tackle those issues, specific to Canada. It is generalized to a tough generalist ban towards - all forms - of euthanasia, which euthanasia in any form specifies. Don't generalize Canada's system to that of all countries.

Your country also unnecessarily kills people who are perfectly healthy:

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/23-year-old-physically-healthy-woman-euthanised-in-belgium-heres-what-happened/articleshow/94742914.cms

And most people within that country approve of that, including me.

There's nothing controversial here. It was her will, her choice.

And all you have to do is respect that decision.

In court, a jury of people (12 people like us) did ultimately decide that her death counts as an additional murder as a consequence of the terrorist attacks in Brussels.

She was a victim of terrorism, and the fact that you suggest something else is incredibly distasteful.

Helping someone with PTSD kill themselves isn't compassion, and supporting that makes you a terrible human being.

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At least Laki just proved my argument correct.

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I do live in a country where assisted euthanasia is legal, unlike some people here who clearly talk like they have no idea what euthanasia is.

With regards to Canada, i'm less familiar with it, but this bill does not tackle those issues, specific to Canada. It is generalized to a tough generalist ban towards - all forms - of euthanasia, which euthanasia in any form specifies. Don't generalize Canada's system to that of all countries.

Your country also unnecessarily kills people who are perfectly healthy:

https://m.economictimes.com/news/international/us/23-year-old-physically-healthy-woman-euthanised-in-belgium-heres-what-happened/articleshow/94742914.cms

And most people within that country approve of that, including me.

There's nothing controversial here. It was her will, her choice.

And all you have to do is respect that decision.

In court, a jury of people (12 people like us) did ultimately decide that her death counts as an additional murder as a consequence of the terrorist attacks in Brussels.

She was a victim of terrorism, and the fact that you suggest something else is incredibly distasteful.

Helping someone with PTSD kill themselves isn't compassion, and supporting that makes you a terrible human being.

The jury in court disagrees with you. And you're using a victim of terrorism to push your social conservative agenda through. Distasteful and disrespectful. Suddenly, the right doesn't care about terrorism anymore? Maybe she was weak and deserved to be the victim? It's what you insinuate.

Being a victim of terrorism isn't something we should be helping someone kill themselves over. They should be getting real help to cope with their situation and learn to find meaning in life again. We shouldn't be taking someone who has clearly experienced a traumatic event but is otherwise healthy and telling them "it's okay, we will help you kill yourself." It literally proves my point that euthanasia is so easily abused to cause real harm to healthy people.

Just because your country has no respectable values doesn't mean we should be like them.

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They should be getting real help to cope with their situation and learn to find meaning in life again.

The fact that you think this hasn''t been done or attempted clearly show that you have no understanding of mental illness.

There is no justifiable reason to help someone struggling with mental illness kill themselves.

The more you defend this, the worse you make yourself look.

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Asking UC to table

objection

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Nay

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Asking to suspend the rules for a motion to table.

Pretty sure you don't have any authority to request this.

In the event Wulfric somehow allows this, I will be objecting.

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Aye

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Aye