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« on: June 22, 2020, 12:10:02 PM »

Honestly the best idea for the Feds is to become socially liberal, but remain economically conservative. This is similar to the New Dems IRL, culture wars issues like abortion are very polarizing, and it’s much easier to seek deregulation and tax cuts rather than banning access to abortion services and other forms of reproductive healthcare. If the feds, ever got back into power I’d also expect them to push fiscally conservative policies, and not focus on polarizing wedge social issues like gun control, abortion, or same sex marriage. This platform might help them peel off some more moderate left wing voters, ftr, I’ve said many times on Discord that this “soclib fiscon” approach is their best idea. So, I guess the best way to say this is that they should become neoliberals or a more economically conservative version of the Third Way Left that emerged under Bill Clinton’s presidency. But yeah, at this point the Feds need to stop being socially conservative to have a chance, imo. I guess they can make Tom Carper their idol and model Tongue.

Guns are not a partisan issue in Atlasia, a pretty solid chunk of the left is pro-gun and one of the most vocal people against the AWB is in the Peace Party.

No one has touched the issue of same sex marriage in the Atlasian right (except for maybe Ben Kenobi doing some ranting at some point).

Abortion is also not really a partisan issue in Atlasia either, as there are many pro-life members on the left, as well as pro-choice members on the right.


You really should stop providing bad advice, especially when it's clear you have no clue what you are talking about.
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fhtagn
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« Reply #1 on: June 22, 2020, 12:30:03 PM »

Honestly the best idea for the Feds is to become socially liberal, but remain economically conservative. This is similar to the New Dems IRL, culture wars issues like abortion are very polarizing, and it’s much easier to seek deregulation and tax cuts rather than banning access to abortion services and other forms of reproductive healthcare. If the feds, ever got back into power I’d also expect them to push fiscally conservative policies, and not focus on polarizing wedge social issues like gun control, abortion, or same sex marriage. This platform might help them peel off some more moderate left wing voters, ftr, I’ve said many times on Discord that this “soclib fiscon” approach is their best idea. So, I guess the best way to say this is that they should become neoliberals or a more economically conservative version of the Third Way Left that emerged under Bill Clinton’s presidency. But yeah, at this point the Feds need to stop being socially conservative to have a chance, imo. I guess they can make Tom Carper their idol and model Tongue.

Guns are not a partisan issue in Atlasia, a pretty solid chunk of the left is pro-gun and one of the most vocal people against the AWB is in the Peace Party.

No one has touched the issue of same sex marriage in the Atlasian right (except for maybe Ben Kenobi doing some ranting at some point).

Abortion is also not really a partisan issue in Atlasia either, as there are many pro-life members on the left, as well as pro-choice members on the right.


You really should stop providing bad advice, especially when it's clear you have no clue what you are talking about.

Those are just examples of social issues, but my point is that social issues remain very polarizing, and running on say tax cuts is a much easier sell than running on restricting reproductive healthcare. (Usual caveats about IRL to Atlasia comparisons) For example, here in NJ, the Republicans regularly run on tax cuts and many are pro-choice, iirc, Christie was. So, maybe you guys should take a page out of the playbook of Northeast Republicans or another idea is just to go full-on Rockefeller Republican.


Do yourself a favor and stop talking.
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fhtagn
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« Reply #2 on: June 22, 2020, 12:56:29 PM »

Honestly the best idea for the Feds is to become socially liberal, but remain economically conservative. This is similar to the New Dems IRL, culture wars issues like abortion are very polarizing, and it’s much easier to seek deregulation and tax cuts rather than banning access to abortion services and other forms of reproductive healthcare. If the feds, ever got back into power I’d also expect them to push fiscally conservative policies, and not focus on polarizing wedge social issues like gun control, abortion, or same sex marriage. This platform might help them peel off some more moderate left wing voters, ftr, I’ve said many times on Discord that this “soclib fiscon” approach is their best idea. So, I guess the best way to say this is that they should become neoliberals or a more economically conservative version of the Third Way Left that emerged under Bill Clinton’s presidency. But yeah, at this point the Feds need to stop being socially conservative to have a chance, imo. I guess they can make Tom Carper their idol and model Tongue.

Guns are not a partisan issue in Atlasia, a pretty solid chunk of the left is pro-gun and one of the most vocal people against the AWB is in the Peace Party.

No one has touched the issue of same sex marriage in the Atlasian right (except for maybe Ben Kenobi doing some ranting at some point).

Abortion is also not really a partisan issue in Atlasia either, as there are many pro-life members on the left, as well as pro-choice members on the right.


You really should stop providing bad advice, especially when it's clear you have no clue what you are talking about.

Those are just examples of social issues, but my point is that social issues remain very polarizing, and running on say tax cuts is a much easier sell than running on restricting reproductive healthcare. (Usual caveats about IRL to Atlasia comparisons) For example, here in NJ, the Republicans regularly run on tax cuts and many are pro-choice, iirc, Christie was. So, maybe you guys should take a page out of the playbook of Northeast Republicans or another idea is just to go full-on Rockefeller Republican.


Do yourself a favor and stop talking.

Ultimately those are the choices that the Feds have, a Rockefeller Republican image could help peel off moderates, also disavowing social conservatism also helps with socially liberal moderates and center-leftists. In a way this “fiscon soclib” approach is a form of triangulation. Triangulation is what you desperately need.

When you admit you are basing this off RL politics and can't back your points up with Atlasian examples, like I said, you really need to stop talking, because it's clear you have no clue what you are talking about.

Also Yankee's points (and to a smaller degree, Encke's) already mentioned in this thread throw a massive wrench in your entire argument here.
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