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« Reply #50 on: October 15, 2023, 04:48:21 AM »
« edited: October 15, 2023, 05:11:45 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

To all the posters that are being critical of Israel. What would you have done if you were Israel After the Hamas abducted/raped/decapitated a ton of israeli children ?


Death toll is terrible in Gaza but I genuinely don't see how Hamas shouldn't be entirely blamed for that.

I would not go in and genocide a group of people because of terrorists. Responding to Hamas by becoming Hamas isn't the answer.
You didn't reply to my question lol.


It's quite telling no one ever in this thread responded to me with a concrete plan about what they would be doing if they were Israel After that Hamas would have raped abducted Israeli women and beheaded babies.

Gaza Attack Options - Retired US Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt

https://youtu.be/-1EO0LVLTeg

After watching that, you can see why the US are acting as a covering force with the US Naval Groups offshore.

If the US show up with any A-10 Warthog's, then watch this space.

There will be anywhere between 2-4 US nuclear submarines involved, some with 160 Tomahawk missiles.

No other actors will be able to distract Israel from Gaza whilst the US military sits just offshore.
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« Reply #51 on: October 15, 2023, 07:19:19 AM »
« Edited: October 15, 2023, 07:42:52 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Kings and Generals

Israeli - Hamas War

https://youtu.be/9UTckJi7hQ4?t=118

Music adds a lot to the mood.

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« Reply #52 on: October 15, 2023, 07:32:21 AM »

To all the posters that are being critical of Israel. What would you have done if you were Israel After the Hamas abducted/raped/decapitated a ton of israeli children ?


Death toll is terrible in Gaza but I genuinely don't see how Hamas shouldn't be entirely blamed for that.

I would not go in and genocide a group of people because of terrorists. Responding to Hamas by becoming Hamas isn't the answer.
You didn't reply to my question lol.


It's quite telling no one ever in this thread responded to me with a concrete plan about what they would be doing if they were Israel After that Hamas would have raped abducted Israeli women and beheaded babies.

Gaza Attack Options - Retired US Brigadier General Mark Kimmitt

https://youtu.be/-1EO0LVLTeg

After watching that, you can see why the US are acting as a covering force with the US Naval Groups offshore.

If the US show up with any A-10 Warthog's, then watch this space.

There will be anywhere between 2-4 US nuclear submarines involved, some with 160 Tomahawk missiles.

No other actors will be able to distract Israel from Gaza whilst the US military sits just offshore.
That's a good video.

Yes. General Kimmitt makes it sound like Israel is surrounded on all sides by crazy Islamic terrorists.
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« Reply #53 on: October 15, 2023, 06:37:45 PM »

Trump predicts Hamas will attack southern United States in a similar border incursion to October 7.

Hamas Mexico Wing

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyZHqNauOjl/
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« Reply #54 on: October 15, 2023, 10:58:07 PM »

Horizon Geopolitics

The Gaza Strip

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyWkcpLqxWt/
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« Reply #55 on: October 16, 2023, 08:40:39 AM »
« Edited: October 16, 2023, 09:15:01 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Missile damage, maps and locations from New York Times, who have promised to monitor the situation with maps live as the ground assault begins.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2023/10/07/world/middleeast/israel-gaza-maps.html

Death by Date



Missile Damage in Gaza City by Location


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Map of Gaza from CNN


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https://edition.cnn.com/2023/10/15/middleeast/gaza-history-explained-intl/index.html

The damage to the road at the bottom of Northern Gaza was caused by Hamas to prevent people from leaving. Israel deliberately avoided bombing that road to allow civilians to leave before the 'shock and awe' campaign coming up next.
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« Reply #56 on: October 16, 2023, 11:02:24 AM »
« Edited: October 16, 2023, 11:53:39 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

An intelligent guy from England, BBC Journalist, Sebastian Usher, discusses Israel's neighbours and analyses the spectrum of Islamic countries which surrounds Israel.

Sebastian Usher

Israel Conflict

https://youtu.be/Nh74H8Pyb8A

Sebastian hints that Lebanon, Egypt and Jordan cannot afford financially to get into a conflict with Israel and USA.
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« Reply #57 on: October 16, 2023, 12:00:16 PM »

Catholic Position on Israel

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyZAaXguquZ/
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« Reply #58 on: October 16, 2023, 08:23:10 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2023, 08:30:45 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

You might consider the historical and cultural reasons why a Hindu wouldn’t want Hindu women to marry Muslim men.

Enlighten us.

Fergusonz, consider yourself enlightened with Hindu marriage techniques.

Why Hindu's Don't Marry Muslims

https://www.instagram.com/reel/CyMWLzHPRy0/

I like the deal where you get your back rubbed. I knew I should have gone Hindu in that opium den in Calcutta in the 1990's.
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« Reply #59 on: October 16, 2023, 09:46:17 PM »
« Edited: October 16, 2023, 10:08:59 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Video of 21 y.o. French National, Mia Schem, emerges from Gaza.

"Hamas has released a video of a young woman who is understood to be held hostage in the Gaza Strip."

"The video was posted on Hamas' Telegram channel and shows a young woman with a bandaged arm speaking Hebrew. She says her name is Mia Schem, she is 21 years old and from Shoham, near Tel Aviv."



The subtitles on the screenshot read 'I am currently in Gaza (Telegram)

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-10-17/live-updates-israel-gaza-war-latest-news-october-17/102984516

"It is not known when or where the video was recorded."

Meanwhile, not everyone is happy in London and New York with the hostage posters being displayed. In their attempts to keep this a 50:50 internet equivalence argument, muslim women have taken great offence to the kidnap posters.

Muslim Women remove Israeli Kidnap Posters

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8gbWjmg9A3c

Same in New York. In both cases, only female participants.


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« Reply #60 on: October 17, 2023, 05:28:57 AM »
« Edited: October 17, 2023, 05:54:14 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Currently 1:30pm in Gaza.

Gaza Live Stream

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IcPPJqKsTR8

All appears quiet on the Western Front. In other news, two countries threatening to deport Palestinians who show support for Hamas over the recent Islamic terrorist attack inside Israel.

Australia - Peter Dutton

https://www.2gb.com/they-should-be-deported-dutton-calls-for-action-on-protestors-with-visas/

Australia has 'bad character' laws to deport such people.

USA - Tom Cotton


In a letter to DHS Secretary Alejandro Mayorkas, Cotton demanded immediate action be taken to remove all foreign nationals who voiced support for Hamas. (Bill Clark/CQ-Roll Call, Inc via Getty Images)

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/sen-cotton-urges-dhs-deport-foreign-nationals-support-hamas-no-place-united-states

Tom's language shows he is serious. He wants all levels of Hamas to be removed - financial, political and military. Tom appeared to raise the issue of Iran being responsible for these attacks and that the US will respond if Hezbollah gets involved.

Jack Carr talks to Peter Zeihan about the situation in Israel.

Danger Close - What's Really Going On In Israel

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cr4zxfUCX-w

Peter hinted that the only reason the Carrier groups are sitting offshore is to get the US hostages, and are not interested in fighting Hezbollah and Lebanon.
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« Reply #61 on: October 17, 2023, 06:51:32 AM »

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« Reply #62 on: October 17, 2023, 09:58:40 AM »

Egypt and Jordan refusing to take refugees.

https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/king-abdullah-gaza-no-refugees-jordan-no-refugees-egypt-2023-10-17/

https://www.timesofisrael.com/jordanian-king-warns-mideast-on-brink-of-abyss-refuses-refuge-for-fleeing-gazans/


German Chancellor Olaf Scholz (R) and Jordan’s King Abdullah II (L) shake hands after addressing a joint press conference after a meeting at the Chancellery in Berlin, Germany, on October 17, 2023. (Photo by Tobias SCHWARZ / AFP)

Jordanian King Abdullah II says that neither his country nor Egypt will accept Palestinian refugees, declaring it a “red line.”

“There will be no refugees in Jordan and no refugees in Egypt.”


I think Joe Biden needs to have a chat to these two countries and get them to re-assess their short term goals in life.
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« Reply #63 on: October 17, 2023, 08:55:44 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2023, 09:08:32 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

The IDF has an overhead UAV or Satellite imagery of the event of the Gaza Hospital explosion.

The IDF will release this footage. I saw it briefly on the TV. There is no doubt it will reveal the actual truth, but it's not on the internet yet.

Things to keep in mind:

1. Israel announce which building they are about to destroy giving time for evacuation of civilians.
2. This building was not on their list.
3. In the last fight between Hamas and Israel, 30-40% of all rockets launched from Gaza landed inside Gaza.
4. Hamas store weapons and have their rocket launch sites in hospitals and schools.
5. Video footage of the event was captured showing a Hamas rocket launch preceding the hospital explosion.

Gaza Live Stream (referenced times top left)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UtruJztXE5w

Alleged Rocket Launch: 19:59:43 (Top Cam)
Rockets Intercepted 20:01:15- 20:20:25 (Bottom Right Cam)

The time of the hospital explosion has not been released.

I cannot pinpoint it on that footage. You can hear an explosions at 20:00:05, 22 seconds later.

We will have to wait for the overhead footage to be released to verify what happened.

Time, locations, missiles, rockets etc. It appeared to have 5cm resolution with black and white footage looking straight down on the exact moment the explosion occurred.

Meanwhile, the US President thought it might be useful to pay the Middle East a visit.

Joe Biden heading to Tel Aviv

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H1u1zY5loFg
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« Reply #64 on: October 17, 2023, 09:17:48 PM »
« Edited: October 17, 2023, 09:34:45 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

In any case, Meclazine, I suspect anything shown on TV has been on the Internet for a while, and I doubt there's any more footage left to release;

Nice work. That definitely confirms the timing of the event that is shown.

The footage I saw on Australian TV from the Israeli's is super-super detailed from above looking straight down.

They will provide evidence from this event which they will release:

Lt Col Jonathan Conricus Speaks


(Israel's Defence Forces spokesperson Lieutenant Colonel Jonathan Conricus told Sky News Australia it will release audio and visuals that were "proof" terrorists had misfired a rocket that struck a Gaza hospital on Tuesday, killing hundreds of people. Picture: idf.il)

Jonathan is 100% certain. The IDF will release this aerial footage in the next couple of hours concerning this misfire from Islamic Jihad. I just saw a few seconds on TV a little while ago. It's not on the internet.

Jonathan also raised the issue of a civilian massacre of Gaza citizens trying to move south out of Gaza City last Friday. He suggested they were killed and the southern main road was destroyed by Hamas-directed explosions.

Hamas appears to be killing it's own citizens if what he is saying can be proven.

Audio and video footage soon to be provided surrounding the Gaza Hospital strike.
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« Reply #65 on: October 18, 2023, 01:00:26 AM »
« Edited: October 18, 2023, 01:12:56 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

....one thing that I haven't found a satisfactory explanation for is why there's this whistling noise before the hospital gets hit.

That is what they sound like. The sound will be different depending on the rocket, it's velocity relative to your location and relative to the speed of sound.

Hamas Rocket Hits Ashdod

https://youtu.be/8PyJRG5FfxY

Why don't we wait for the evidence to see what actually happened?

President Biden said the US will conduct an independent investigation.

I would say it's too early to be definitive either way until we see some video, audio and analysis of the munitions used.
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« Reply #66 on: October 18, 2023, 06:07:09 AM »
« Edited: October 18, 2023, 06:45:24 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

What an absolute calamity for Western media. We went to bed with Israel leveling a hospital killing over 500, to the reality of Palestinian rocket debris killing 10-20 at most.

Shame on you NYT, Guardian, and the rest of the usual culprits.

Several things did not make sense in the whole scenario, as previously mentioned.

Netanyahu gave a historic speech introducing President Biden. His pride with the US friendship during this greatest hour of need was clear.

Really glad Joe Biden came out and verified what he had seen.

President Joe Biden Meeting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g-yUY6XwJfM

Let's get back to searching for the 199 hostages in one of the worst terrorist attacks since 9/11.
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« Reply #67 on: October 18, 2023, 07:05:28 AM »

The most unhinged thing about Hamas it is that they are literally killings their own population with these missed missiles.

Truly insane degenerates.

Israel are saying they are putting video footage evidence together on the civilian strike on the road last Friday:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-67114281

If what the Israeli's are saying is true, these Palestinians were targeted by Hamas.

Israel don't ask civilians to migrate south for their own safety, then send a missile to blow those same people travelling on the road leading south. That makes no sense.

Hamas are running out of credibility here trying to keep civilians in the north in Gaza City.
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« Reply #68 on: October 18, 2023, 09:07:34 AM »
« Edited: October 18, 2023, 09:52:29 AM by Meclazine for Israel »


Iranian foreign minister Hossein Amirabdollahian speaks during a joint press conference with Lebanon's caretaker foreign minister Abdallah Bou Habib (not pictured) in Beirut, Lebanon, October 13, 2023.(Mohamed Azakir/Reuters)

"Time is OVER!"

https://www.foxnews.com/world/iran-shares-chilling-message-israel-gaza-hospital-explosion-kills-500-time-over

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/time-is-up-iranian-official-threatens-to-unleash-terrorist-proxies-on-israel-says-multi-front-war-inevitable/

"The Iranian official provided the interview after returning to Tehran from meetings with terrorist leaders throughout the region."

Can I use the term "sabre-rattling"?

Meanwhile, in Tel Aviv, the man he has to contend with.

President Joe Biden

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sYhnDPNwUhQ

You cannot ask for a better speech from the ol' boy than that.
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« Reply #69 on: October 18, 2023, 10:28:04 AM »

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« Reply #70 on: October 18, 2023, 07:06:35 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2023, 07:59:22 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

All this would be very interesting if there was in fact a leveled hospital, instead of a damaging rocket strike in a parking lot with plenty of casualties in the overcrowded area. The fully revealed true level of damage is perfectly in line with a Hamas failed missile strike.

Yeah this was all somewhat mysterious last night but now that it’s clear that the “blown up hospital” and 500-800 dead claims were despicable Hamas lies, there’s no real mystery to what happened anymore.

What makes this more bizarre is that Israel never disputed any of this - they just disputed who was responsible for that.

In fact they did.

Lt Col. Jonathan Conricus said yesterday on Australian TV that they are analysing overhead footage to monitor the body count.

He said in passing that the IDF will research all available data to make sure Hamas are not exaggerating the numbers.

The reason they don't argue this point straight up first is that legally, it is a fail.

"You bombed my hospital and killed 500 people".

"No. Only 200 people died."


That appears that you admit to the bombing and are seeking to minimise the effect of your guilty actions.

As for The New York Times, they published 500 casualties which Hamas came up with after 2 mins. Israel said it will take at least a week to determine the number of casualties.
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« Reply #71 on: October 18, 2023, 07:40:41 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2023, 08:15:26 PM by Meclazine for Israel »

Israeli community organisation to help bring back the 199 people kidnapped by Hamas.

Bring Them Home Now has a social media presence to bring to light the kidnap victims.

It follows the families of the kidnap victims as they search for answers from within Gaza.

Avihai Brodutch Whole Family Kidnapped

https://www.instagram.com/reel/Cyinav4NPMh

Just tragic.
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« Reply #72 on: October 18, 2023, 11:39:31 PM »
« Edited: October 19, 2023, 05:16:29 AM by Meclazine for Israel »

Who bombed the Hospital car park?

PBS News Hour Story

https://youtu.be/Wi3xKXDeCn4?t=2010

Retired US General Mark Hertling says the evidence points towards a failed rocket from inside Gaza causing the hospital strike.

"Not a whole lotta' damage".

"It certainly was not a strike on the hospital itself".

US Retired Lt. General Mark Hertling

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=THV_OuzC9jM

His claims were also backed by the IDF, President Joe Biden and the Pentagon.

The IDF are saying the same thing.

"It was impossible for Hamas to know what happened in the Hospital car park so quickly."

"There was no IDF fire from land, sea or air at the time of the explosion."

IDF Rear Admiral Daniel Hagari

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mYqlG3dKIFo

It appears a rocket originating in Gaza landed on the parking lot of the hospital.

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« Reply #73 on: October 19, 2023, 08:42:06 AM »

Geopolitical Boundaries

1930-2023

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« Reply #74 on: October 19, 2023, 10:19:26 AM »

Benjamin Netanyahu

A Brief History of Israel

https://fb.watch/nN0wum5B0Q/

The Muslims are going bezerk on Instagram at the moment over the hospital car park explosion.
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