Trump storms out of negotiations after Pelosi says “No” to a Wall (user search)
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
June 26, 2024, 08:43:33 AM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  U.S. General Discussion (Moderators: The Dowager Mod, Chancellor Tanterterg)
  Trump storms out of negotiations after Pelosi says “No” to a Wall (search mode)
Pages: [1]
Author Topic: Trump storms out of negotiations after Pelosi says “No” to a Wall  (Read 1634 times)
Koharu
jphp
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,646
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.35

« on: January 09, 2019, 07:30:06 PM »

Why doesn't Congress simply pass a funding bill and override Trump's veto?
Doing so would be political suicide for Mitch McConnell and it would reflect very badly on any Republican Senator who votes for an override.

Why? "The Wall," the shutdown, and Trump are all extremely unpopular right now. I don't see how refusing to back the president on something so unpopular would be "suicide."
Logged
Koharu
jphp
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,646
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.35

« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2019, 08:04:07 PM »

Why doesn't Congress simply pass a funding bill and override Trump's veto?
Doing so would be political suicide for Mitch McConnell and it would reflect very badly on any Republican Senator who votes for an override.

Why? "The Wall," the shutdown, and Trump are all extremely unpopular right now. I don't see how continuing to back the president is something so unpopular would be "suicide."

Because I genuinely believe that for all their tough as nails politicking, that Pelosi and Schumer, unlike Trump, have emotions and empathy for other people and deplore the suffering and financial hardships Federal workers and the communities they serve are starting to endure. The biggest weakness, if you want to call it that, in Democrats sticking to this is Trump literally absolutely does not give a flying s*** how many people he Harms or how badly, or even the country itself, so long as he gets what he wants. Pelosi and Schumer might just give him his toy wall so federal employee families don't get foreclosed on, and kids who rely on food stamps don't go down to one meal a day.

That, and to add some cynicism to it, Urban recipients of food stamps and federal workers are both important Democratic constituencies whom might eventually yell uncle loud enough for Pelosi and Schumer to at least partially cave.

I agree that is likely what Republicans are hoping for, but it still doesn't answer why it would be political suicide for Senate Republicans especially to override Trump's veto. I think some of them still have souls, too.
Logged
Koharu
jphp
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,646
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.06, S: -4.35

« Reply #2 on: January 09, 2019, 11:36:44 PM »

Why doesn't Congress simply pass a funding bill and override Trump's veto?
Doing so would be political suicide for Mitch McConnell and it would reflect very badly on any Republican Senator who votes for an override.

Why? "The Wall," the shutdown, and Trump are all extremely unpopular right now. I don't see how refusing to back the president on something so unpopular would be "suicide."

They're unpopular with the nation as a whole.  But the wall and Trump are popular within the Republican base, which exerts more immediate influence on Republican politicians.

Thank you. This makes the most sense, but the wall and shutdown are so unpopular that even some of the base must be unhappy with it, and things will only get worse as the shutdown continues. But I guess they hope the more they double down on the base, the more enthusiastic/angry they will be. Sigh.
Logged
Pages: [1]  
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.024 seconds with 12 queries.