The Atlas Asylum of absurd/ignorant posts IX

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They are using unmarked cars because the Mobs in the streets are attacking and vandalizing police cars.  It's an appropriate tactic in the face of a lawless, Marxist mob.

People have committed crimes during the violence in major cities.  Those who have need to face the criminal penalties for these acts.  The hysteria is deception, and is a means the left is using to assist the Marxist Rioters guilty of crimes to avoid prosecution.  I'm very definitely not OK with that.  These people are not peaceful protesters; they are persons committing crimes.  And the municipalities where they are committing these crimes are simply not enforcing the law.  Why taxpayers and ordinary citizens should be OK with that is beyond me.

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They are using unmarked cars because the Mobs in the streets are attacking and vandalizing police cars.  It's an appropriate tactic in the face of a lawless, Marxist mob.

People have committed crimes during the violence in major cities.  Those who have need to face the criminal penalties for these acts.  The hysteria is deception, and is a means the left is using to assist the Marxist Rioters guilty of crimes to avoid prosecution.  I'm very definitely not OK with that.  These people are not peaceful protesters; they are persons committing crimes.  And the municipalities where they are committing these crimes are simply not enforcing the law.  Why taxpayers and ordinary citizens should be OK with that is beyond me.

I move to rename the thread after Fuzzy Bear.

He is fast becoming an object worthy of mockery. 

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Another gem:

Of course you can scare people with the spectre of "Marxist Riots", especially when it's true.

What is going on in the streets today is not Dr. King's "non-violent peace movement".  It is a violent Marxist revolt, something people wish to keep the general public from fully recognizing until after the election.  It is a Marxism that is a cure that is worse than all the ills you cite because it will (if fully successful) end individual Constitutional liberties and replace them with the sort of Mob Rule we see now.

Marxist-Leninist movements provide cures that are worse than the disease in every nation they've tried it.  That's what you propose.  What's going on in our streets today is nothing that Dr. King ever signed off on during his lifetime.  And no one in the SCLC ever described themselves as "trained Marxists" as Patrice Cullors, co-founder of BLM, has done.

I won't stop.  And if you say that BLM isn't a Marxist organization, you are either deceived or deceiving.  Their leaders have gone on record.  Their tactics are straight out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.  There's no middle ground here.

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Another gem:

Of course you can scare people with the spectre of "Marxist Riots", especially when it's true.

What is going on in the streets today is not Dr. King's "non-violent peace movement".  It is a violent Marxist revolt, something people wish to keep the general public from fully recognizing until after the election.  It is a Marxism that is a cure that is worse than all the ills you cite because it will (if fully successful) end individual Constitutional liberties and replace them with the sort of Mob Rule we see now.

Marxist-Leninist movements provide cures that are worse than the disease in every nation they've tried it.  That's what you propose.  What's going on in our streets today is nothing that Dr. King ever signed off on during his lifetime.  And no one in the SCLC ever described themselves as "trained Marxists" as Patrice Cullors, co-founder of BLM, has done.

I won't stop.  And if you say that BLM isn't a Marxist organization, you are either deceived or deceiving.  Their leaders have gone on record.  Their tactics are straight out of Alinsky's Rules for Radicals.  There's no middle ground here.

I still want this thread renamed after Fuzzy Bear.

And if it isn't done by next week, I'd be willing to start a new one with his name attached to it.

By the time Fuzzy Bear gets transferred to an assisted-living facility in coming years, he'll still be ranting and raving about 'violent, Marxist-Leninist mobs' to his fellow residents while sitting down for coffee and breakfast. 

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So it has finally come to this -Fuzzy Bear is now officially a fascist:

Marxism Leninism is absolute an evil ideology that must be destroyed, root and branch. That being said, these Moms are not Marxist Leninists, nor are the dads or US vets marching with them. They are just normal moms and dads.

The violence absolutely must be denounced, and I don't think any of these protesters support violence. It is important to raise up the banner of non-violent demonstration:

Portland leaders condemn violence, draw distinction between peaceful protest and riot

"“The self-concern, the casual destruction and the self-righteous determination to put others in harm’s way that was on display last night in this city does absolutely nothing to honor the legacy of George Floyd or to improve the systemic problems that led to his murder,” Mondainé said Saturday morning. “Destructive acts that hamper the progress of our cause can only be committed by those who do not truly care about preventing further George Floyds or are too ignorant to know better.

“To our non-black allies," he said, "do not commit violence in our name.”

-- Rev. E.D. Mondainé, president of Portland’s NAACP

"“I believe there was a small group of people who came out last night with every intention of tearing stuff up and they were going to tear it up no matter how many of them there were,” she continued. “But I want to be crystal clear: What happened last night had nothing to do with black America. It was not about standing up for black people’s rights. It was not about acknowledging the death and harm that has taken place.”"

-- African American Portland City Commissioner Jo Ann Hardesty (D-OR)

It is important to support peaceful protests for the important goal of Black Lives Matter.

You had me until the last line.

Black Lives Matter is a Marxist Organization, founded by two (2) women who admit to being "trained Marxists".  Whatever the goals of BLM, the organization must be roundly condemned for their behavior.  In a civilized society they would have already condemned.  In this Alice Through The Looking Glass society, they have received lots of political love and corporate money, for reasons that are not clear, and have the look and feel of a payoff for "safety".  

It's too late for "Peaceful Protests".  We got the message; the "voices were heard".  All the peaceful protesters are doing now is feeding the Violent Mobs.  And many so-called "peaceful protesters" are actually standing by rioters, vandals, and arsonists, not actually committing these events, but cheering the violent persons on.  It's the "Peaceful Protesters", and not the police, that need to stand down; they are a major obstacle to restoring public order at this time.  I'll cut them props as to perhaps not really understanding how they're keeping the problem going, but it's time for them to stand down and for riots to be quelled.

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See thread for context:

"'Anglo-Saxon political traditions'" is not a racial reference.  It is a reference to the 18th century Whig idea that the major elements of the English & American tradition of liberty, common law, separation of powers, etc., can all be traced back to guys whose names started with "Æthel-" gathering under oak trees.

[Frodo]

See thread for context:

"'Anglo-Saxon political traditions'" is not a racial reference.  It is a reference to the 18th century Whig idea that the major elements of the English & American tradition of liberty, common law, separation of powers, etc., can all be traced back to guys whose names started with "Æthel-" gathering under oak trees.

how is this absurd?   you think I should have mentioned Hengist and Horsa ?

Don't play dumb.  You know exactly what 'Anglo-Saxon' is in reference to given our country's fraught racial history.    

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Beep boop is certainly on a streak recently. Regarding leaking SCOTUS justices home addresses:

If leaking the address is not an incitement of violence , neither is Trump’s speech on January 6th .

Honorable mention for his other posts in that thread where he goes full on fascist by calling for the police to be used "clear out" peaceful protestors.

Red Avatars are literally making the same defenses Trump hacks did regarding his disgusting behavior .

Except that protesting in the street is perfectly legal behavior. No one has stormed the homes of any of the justice’s homes, nor has anyone advocated for this. Far cry from trump telling everyone to show up on Jan 6th to “take back control”.

Nor has anyone (as far as I know) advocated kidnapping the Supreme Court justices in question, subjecting them to a kangaroo court, and then executing them for 'treason':

Gretchen Whitmer kidnapping plot  

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Ah, where the Dem obsession with "insurrection" comes back to bite them in the a$$.

Putting that in scare quotes is a sign that this country is terminally f—ked. Genuinely disturbing how readily people have forgotten or stopped caring that a very real insurrection/coup was attempted and came far too close to succeeding. Nothing else — not this, not BLM protests, nothing — is comparable. Not in this country’s history, anyway. It was completely unprecedented and it’s chilling how people are shrugging it off and mocking those rightfully concerned about it and the implications for the future of our democracy now.

No, Jan. 6 was not a "very real insurrection/coup". It was a grassroots unarmed protest fired on by police without warning. People have protested election results for years, you could even say it's an American tradition. The main difference is that this one actually inconvenienced our dear political elites for one afternoon, rather than the regular yokels like us who usually get inconvenienced by protests. Ashli Babbitt wasn't some Patrick Henry. She was just some psychologically disturbed political activist who was in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Honestly I would be lying if I said I wasn't at least a little bit worried that Trump would try to pull something over in late 2020, but it never happened. Most slides into dictatorships or authoritarian governments happen because the would-be-dictator is actually popular. Trump in his first term never had that going for him. I do think America's slide into authoritarianism is a real danger, and even likely this century, but it will most likely happen under conditions where the President is a popular figure with elite backing.

My God. He seemed like a fine and solid liberal poster, at least to me. This is unexpected to say the least.

I take it you are not familiar with Beet.