Biden's "anti-populist" triangulation NEW:Biden talks working w/ segregationists

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Are people more upset about the first part of that, or the second part?

Both. The comment is dismissive and misrepresenting not just Bernie but the roughly 45-50% of the party that voted for him. I have a lot of reasons to absolutely despise the ultra-rich, and none of them are because they aren't "patriotic enough"

He comes off as an out-of-touch idiot. Much like DrScholl in all of his posts.

It is also irrelevant & the Bernie comment was totally unnecessary while talking about the Alabama Senate race. Ofcourse it is misrepresenting & it does nothing for the Dem Primary Electorate in 2020 & he will find no sympathy. Does he want to position himself as the candidate of the rich or does he want money from donors for his campaign?

Either way this is the problem with Joe. Not just his terrible record on the Death Penalty, Iraq War, TPP, Patriot Act & so on, but his lack of discipline. The guy does creepy things & speaks stupid stuff all the time. His heart may actually be in the right place but none-the-less it is stupid.

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Unfortunately there are not many radical centrist Democrat as the Democratic base is overwhelmingly progressive. Biden would ,like Hilary, need a landslide win among the progressive black community & even then it may not be enough.

BTW latest results of Pew Research -

(Of Dem/Lean Dem voters - 93% say Income inequality is a very big/moderately big problem - 91% of all Blacks & 84% of Hispanics vs 80% of Whites. 73% of Dems think Corporations make too much profit, 57% of Dems want taxes on 250K+ Income people raised, 69% want taxes on Big corporations to be raised).

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I don't know what exactly is this fringe left coming from? If anything Bernie's policy proposals are supported by a majority on most issues making him the default center to center-left.

Biden if anything is to right of the voters. And much much to the right of the Dem electorate. Biden is a fringe candidate policy wise - His views of Iraq War, Marijuana etc are extreme ones.

Anyways people don't care about economic scores or center-left or center-right. You will have people going from Feingold to Johnson in Wisconsin. I don't know who came up with this dumb idea that so-called centrists can win. If anything these radical so-called centrists have been proven unelectable. Only a progressive can beat Trump.

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I don't know what exactly is this fringe left coming from? If anything Bernie's policy proposals are supported by a majority on most issues making him the default center to center-left.

Biden if anything is to right of the voters. And much much to the right of the Dem electorate. Biden is a fringe candidate policy wise - His views of Iraq War, Marijuana etc are extreme ones.

Anyways people don't care about economic scores or center-left or center-right. You will have people going from Feingold to Johnson in Wisconsin. I don't know who came up with this dumb idea that so-called centrists can win. If anything these radical so-called centrists have been proven unelectable. Only a progressive can beat Trump.

Is this more of that “Bernie would be a centrist” bs?

Naah, he is a left wing politician with broad support from the public on sane rational policies while the entire Republican party is a radical fringe extremist group in terms of policy decisions. There is nothing called a moderate Republican anymore. Those died with the Rockefeller.

But anyways, this is irrelevant to the topic & let us not start another ridiculous irrelevant discussion.