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RaphaelDLG
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« on: February 20, 2019, 04:54:24 PM »

Most certainly.  I don't pretend to like his followers, but out of party loyalty I will back him if he becomes our nominee


Respectfully I hear this a lot and I think this is a dumb rationale.  You should back him because the alternative is devastating for millions of people.

The only reason I mindlessly tow the Democratic party line is not out of some irrational sense of loyalty to the letter D but because nowadays with party homogeneity the Democrats are always the clear lesser of two evils choice and to not make that choice causes a tremendous amount of suffering.
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« Reply #1 on: February 21, 2019, 11:48:01 PM »

Most certainly.  I don't pretend to like his followers, but out of party loyalty I will back him if he becomes our nominee


Respectfully I hear this a lot and I think this is a dumb rationale.  You should back him because the alternative is devastating for millions of people.

The only reason I mindlessly tow the Democratic party line is not out of some irrational sense of loyalty to the letter D but because nowadays with party homogeneity the Democrats are always the clear lesser of two evils choice and to not make that choice causes a tremendous amount of suffering.


Well for me it is basically the D next to the name, barring Moore level stuff.

That's not a reason to vote for someone.

Hell, I'm not gonna vote for my Labor candidate in May over here if they don't reflect the stances I hold. I'm more than prepared to vote for the party that does.

Don't vote because of the party. Vote because the candidate represents your views best.

Right, and I would amend that language to say cast a vote that will result in a better country (for instance, under the first language, I would have wasted a vote for rocky Anderson in 2012 or Ralph Nader in 2000).

Now, of course, if you live in a polarized country or a country with a lot of party discipline, you may end up just voting for the same party every single time like I do. 

But it's important to be faithful to policy, not personality or tribe.  Psychological research indicates that we are mostly actually the latter which IMO is the cause of a lot of problems.
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2019, 07:16:05 PM »

While I will be campaigning against and trashing him at every opportunity, I’m not stupid. Unlike many of his supporters I know that who’s in power matters a great deal. Would never give Trump a chance at four more years.

I find it funny how Bernie stans want to preach about falling in line and stopping Trump now that their candidate is the front runner. Smh.

I can't take the level of insanity on this site any more
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