TRUMP: "There has to be some form of punishment" for women who have abortions

[Virginiá]

How disgusting.

But I must ask - How do some pro-lifers justify calling abortion murder while letting women, who seek out the abortion, off the hook? If abortion really is murder to them, then a woman seeking an abortion doctor is almost exactly like, say, a wife seeking a contract killer to snuff out her husband.

That logic doesn't really add up for me

[Virginiá]

Because women who seek abortions usually have much more sympathetic motivations, and because, if we're being honest about what sorts of laws a decent society would or should actually tolerate, punishing them is simply impracticable to do in any way that's subjectively reasonable.

I guess, but I still think the people who want to ban abortion but don't want to punish the women should not call abortion murder if they don't intend to punish the woman. It's hypocritical. Why call it murder if you don't intend to treat it like murder?

Though, I'm not sure how many people hold that position, either. There was a poll on this forum regarding this and iirc, most, if not all people who wanted abortion banned said there should be some sort of punishment for the woman and doctor, going as high as 1st/2nd degree murder.

[Virginiá]

As a Pro-choice Republican  RINO and freedom loving American this sickens me.

Fixed it I noticed that both of us identify as Republicans, and because your views don't exactly match mine, I, as the arbiter of conservatism, have decided that you're obviously not a Republican

Fixed it

[Virginiá]

My gosh he's stupid. He must be trying to lose on purpose... I just hate though how he will eventually get a pass due to his later excuse. I hope democrats are effecive at hammering him on all of the dumb sh*t he says.

Oh they will be. For one, they have already seen what didn't work, and the #NeverTrump campaign might actually be yielding fruit (can't say definitively right now, though)

Second, it's important to remember that most people don't like Trump at all. The reason he seems like he has mile-thick teflon is because he appeals strongly to a plurality of the Republican base. This makes him like a wall in their primary, but once he gets into the general electorate, he's damaged goods - big time. He would have to work extremely hard and spend a lot of money just to be even remotely close to competitive, and it would take Clinton all of 1 month or less to tear him down in attack ads based on the 2389102312 offensive/degrading things he's said on camera.

If he ever was electable, he surely isn't now. Period.