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StatesPoll
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« on: May 22, 2016, 04:47:58 AM »

New Jersey's 2010 Census demographics:

68.6% White American
13.7% African American
0.3% Native American
8.3% Asian American
6.4% other races
2.7% Multiracial American
17.7% of the population were Hispanic or Latino (of any race).

Looking at that, explain how Trump gets to 50%.

1. TRUMP doesn't need to get 50% to win. 49%ish would be enough.
(Garry Johnson,Jill Stein)

2. Considering turnouts
Election 2016 in NJ: Demographcis would be
White 67% | Black 15% | Hispanic 12% | Asian 5% | Other 1%
(in 2012, ass CNN Exit Poll, it was White 67% | Black 18% | Latino 10% | Asian 3%)
http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/NJ/president/

But I don't think Turnouts of Black voters would so high like 2012.(Hillary is popular with Black. but not enough to induce massive turnouts of black like Obama)

White 67% x 60.5% = 40.53%
Black 15% x 12% = 1.8%
Hispanic 12% x 35% = 4.2%
Asian 5% x 45% = 2.25%
Other 1% x 35% = 0.35%

Total 49.13%

it's not an easy goal, but not an impossible goal either.
if TRUMP unifies the GOP fully and gets 90% of them.
Attract the Reagan Democrats well and gets 15% of them.
He gets 55%+ of the Independent.
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« Reply #1 on: May 22, 2016, 05:46:24 AM »
« Edited: May 22, 2016, 05:50:15 AM by StatesPoll »

 

So, a higher percentage of the white vote than Romney got nationally...in New Jersey. And 35% of Hispanics? Complete wishful thinking.

Also IT'S 2016 THRE IS NO SUCH THING AS "REAGAN DEMOCRATS"
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1. This NBC/SurveyMonkey National Poll had '12507' Yuge RV.
2016 General Election - Clinton 48%, Trump 45% (NBC News/SurveyMonkey 5/9-5/15)
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-calls-trump-s-guns-schools-plan-way-out-n578161

2. at this Poll, Hispanic: Hillary 65% | TRUMP 28% | No Answer 7%
if I convert it without no answer, TRUMP 28 / 93 =  30.1%.

3. So, Once he got 30%ish Hispanic support of the Yuge RV National Poll
why 35% Hispanic Support in NJ is an impossible goal?

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« Reply #2 on: May 22, 2016, 09:59:04 AM »



So, a higher percentage of the white vote than Romney got nationally...in New Jersey. And 35% of Hispanics? Complete wishful thinking.

Also IT'S 2016 THRE IS NO SUCH THING AS "REAGAN DEMOCRATS"

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1. This NBC/SurveyMonkey National Poll had '12507' Yuge RV.
2016 General Election - Clinton 48%, Trump 45% (NBC News/SurveyMonkey 5/9-5/15)
http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-election/hillary-clinton-calls-trump-s-guns-schools-plan-way-out-n578161

2. at this Poll, Hispanic: Hillary 65% | TRUMP 28% | No Answer 7%
if I convert it without no answer, TRUMP 28 / 93 =  30.1%.

3. So, Once he got 30%ish Hispanic support of the Yuge RV National Poll
why 35% Hispanic Support in NJ is an impossible goal?

The 30% Hispanic number is assuming Hispanics break 50/50, a very naive assumption with Trump's campaign. It also doesn't take into account that Republicans often overpoll with Hispanics because non English speaking ones are very heavily D.

But besides all that even if the number is 30%, why would NJ Hispanics be significantly MORE conservative than nationally? Republican Hispanics are clustered mostly in Florida, Texas and other Southwest states. NJ ones meanwhile are quite urban.
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I think your analysis about it. It does make sense. I admit it.

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« Reply #3 on: June 05, 2016, 09:19:23 PM »

Yes, I know many will laugh at me. I'm kinda new here, but I think if Trump plays his cards right he could win the state of New Jersey. It was actually considered a toss up state in '04, so I don't see why it can't be a toss up state this election. Plus the latest quinnipiac poll, shows Clinton only up 7, and thats REALLY bad for her. since Obama carried the state by 18 points.

imo His chance of winning

OR=ME-2 >= MN >= WA >= CT=ME(Statewide) >= ME1 >= NJ > NY=CA

in NJ, Minorities(33-34% voters share) support for TRUMP is lower than Other states.
Especially Blacks, He often gets 2-3%ish in Polls. Latinos around 20%ish, Asians under 30%ish.

Republican voters shares in NJ: only 19.5%(June,2016) so can't expect turnouts matter much.

I think CT is playable for TRUMP, But NJ it would be very hard.
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« Reply #4 on: June 05, 2016, 10:14:15 PM »

Yes, I know many will laugh at me. I'm kinda new here, but I think if Trump plays his cards right he could win the state of New Jersey. It was actually considered a toss up state in '04, so I don't see why it can't be a toss up state this election. Plus the latest quinnipiac poll, shows Clinton only up 7, and thats REALLY bad for her. since Obama carried the state by 18 points.

imo His chance of winning

OR=ME-2 >= MN >= WA >= CT=ME(Statewide) >= ME1 >= NJ > NY=CA

in NJ, Minorities(33-34% voters share) support for TRUMP is lower than Other states.
Especially Blacks, He often gets 2-3%ish in Polls. Latinos around 20%ish,Asians under 30%ish.

Republican voters shares in NJ: only 19.5%(June,2016) so can't expect turnouts matter much.[/b]

I think CT is playable for TRUMP, But NJ it would be very hard.
McCain got 22% of the Latino Vote in 2008 in NJ according to a Pew Research Poll I read a few years back.

McCain got 8% of the Black Vote in 2008, and Romney got 4% of the Black Vote in 2012 in NJ.

Most Voters in NJ don't register with a party but when you include "leaners" like in the year end Gallup Poll of 2015 Dems have a 10 point advantage. Just look at the "States Of The States" in "Gallup".
ummmm Republican 19.5% source is this

 Party Affiliation Statistics in NJ. April,30,2016

http://www.njelections.org/2016-results/2016-05-voter-registration-by-congressional-district.pdf

Total : 5.50 Mil

DEM: 1.77 Mil / 5.50 Mil = 32.2% | REP: 1.077 Mil / 5.50 Mil = 19.5%

Indpendent: 2.65 Mil / 5.50 Mil = 48.2%
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