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Yes abolish the hopeless parties
 
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No 50 state strategy
 
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Keep them around and hope that they somehow win
 
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LLR
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« on: January 06, 2017, 09:50:25 AM »

God, I feel clichéd for saying this again and again, but this is what I hate about many Democrats. Red-state democrats are still people. In many of these states, we hold house seats, or have in the past. We dissolve any state parties, we kiss our chances of ever winning the house goodbye. We need to try to win rural voters, not give up.

And hell, we also can basically say goodbye to the Senate, because where the hell would we be without our Manchins and Heitkamps? It's a terrible strategy both in terms of winning houses of Congress and in terms of attitude. This rhetoric annoys me immensely. Don't fall in this trap. We don't want another Akin moment to happen to some red-state senator, only to find ourselves with no legitimate candidates and a wasted opportunity.
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« Reply #1 on: January 06, 2017, 10:35:51 AM »

By that logic, should the Republicans disband in areas such as California and D.C.?

I personally would love it if a viable center right party rose up in California, and gave the state a competitive 2 party system, unhindered by pressure from conservatives in the rest of the country.

Well, even ten years ago state parties didn't seem to feel that much pressure from the national parties and tailored their candidates to local races ... so the parties should just stop being stupid and do that again...?  Doesn't take a whole lot for the DNC to run a bunch of ads in Arkansas talking about how "Arkansas Democrats are your father's Democrats, not Chuck Schumer's Democrats," they just don't want to.

This, exactly. Of course Wyoming Democrats should be more conservative than Oregon Republicans. Is that true? No way, José! Look, the Democratic message of "peace, love, and understanding" (thanks Elvis Costello) is one that a lot of people can get behind. If we campaigned on that, but tailored it to fit each state's definition of those words, that would be a hella strong 50 state strategy. We may call ourselves a big tent party, but we got 21% in Wyoming. Our tent has  a hole, folks. A big hole. And this plan Cashew has set up will only make the hole bigger. Hell, our tent might light up in flames at this rate. The only solution is to push an early Obama policy of inclusivity, and deliver it to each state and each community's needs. Not to give up.
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