Joe Biden 2020 campaign megathread v2

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The near iconoclasm of Joe Biden is awesome to watch. His first instinct is to fight rather than to grovel when increasingly Democrats are the opposite (though Bernie has/had this mindset too, which I like). Both the left and the liberal-left, who are supposedly adversaries but both act as representatives of the Democratic zeitgeist, have attempted to cancel Biden for the 20th time with the assist of the far-right as well as the media -- vultures who love to see Democratic politicians apologize. These will continue to fail because Biden is unlike the liberal weaklings (Booker, O'Rourke, etc.) they routinely roll over. Maybe those guys really do have principles they believe in, but they're too flimsy to defend them or their character. Besides, nobody really likes over-apologizers, except for the people who dislike you.

Maybe this makes Biden similar to Trump. So? Ironically, at the second debate in 2016 Trump said that "[Hillary] doesn't quit; she doesn't give up". Frankly, I feel this way about Trump. He's relentless and, no matter how laughably incoherent they are, he's always fighting for his beliefs. This also includes deflecting off attacks on his character, even when he has little ground to stand on. Still, who doesn't want that kind of person on their side?

This brings me to an interesting point of personal evolution. I was an Obama fanboy as a young lad -- I greatly admired his wit and savvy, and I still do. But honestly, I think there's something more endearing about Biden: he's a fighter. I think it was King on AAD who remarked that showing old clips of Biden is counterproductive because it shows him at his fiercest but also at his most charismatic. He is clearly less vivacious than he used to be, but he still shows signs of the same energy. It's appreciated.

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I'm a white man. I don't consume mayo by the gallon.

Mayosapien lol

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The reason he's polling high is the nostalgia for the previous administration. If he remained a Senator and still ran this cycle, he'd be doing about as well as in 2008. And the nostalgia factor may very well wear off too, especially since Obama is keeping his distance from Biden's campaign.

Biden is a man from the past, and a poor fit for today's Democratic base. His attempts at readjusting himself comes across as insincere and poorly executed. His record is hanging around his neck like a giant albatross. His goofy "I'm your cool uncle Joe" schtick won't do the trick.

And no, I'm not discounting the possibility that his uncertain lead could carry him to the nomination if the opposition remains so divided (especially in early, crucial states), but I don't see him generating "more" enthusiasm. As of the whole talking point of his "moderate credentials" making him more "electable" come general election than other Democratic candidates, that's just deluded.

You've got some badly outdated talking points there. Even most leftists, pivoting to claiming his brain is melting, have given up saying Biden is "out of touch" with the party... maybe because it's clearly not true? The most recent CNN poll had liberals at 42% of the primary electorate and moderate/conservatives at 57%. Biden is of course dominating the latter category, but he remains competitive with the former too.

The base is not what you think it is.

As for the thread, you don't need a large pool of enthusiastic fanatics to win an election. The internet has distorted many people's minds.

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Biden supporters: stop wasting your time arguing with degenerate NEETS. We’re the ones with the positive views on Chick-fil-a and Seaworld, not them. We’re the normal ones.

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Our little buddy henster’s back at it again! Though it’s interesting he’s rehashing the Anita Hill stuff as it’s gotten no play in the last 6 months.

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Mondale’s syphilis-addled brain thought linking the deranged lunatic Matt Stoller would help his point.

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Promising to end all deportations is an insane thing to do. Good for Joe.

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I mean the fact that in the latest Marquette poll, Bernie is beating Trump by 11% among union members whereas Biden is only winning by 8% kind of says it all, Bernie has far more appeal to Trump voters in states like Wisconsin than Biden does, the media though will never admit that.  

Noted moron Annatar knew nothing about polling before, but revealing that you draw major conclusions from a subsample of n=70 wasn't a good look!