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Omega21
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« on: October 18, 2020, 12:48:31 PM »

Geographically, it is best described as Asia. Politically and culturally, its a bit murkier.
This is why we should get rid of the idea of Europe’s as a continent.
Screw it, it’s just an extension of Asia.

Lol... Peak 2020 woke opinion right there

I'm assuming that by "we",  you mean the US should declare Europe non-existent as a continent unilaterally. Can't say I'm surprised by the opinion.

Anyway, hope the right side, i.e. Armenians, manage to hold most of the former autonomous region in the end. Both sides hands are bloody, but Azerbaijan is more to blame for this.

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Omega21
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« Reply #1 on: October 18, 2020, 01:23:12 PM »
« Edited: October 18, 2020, 01:30:00 PM by Omega21 »

Geographically, it is best described as Asia. Politically and culturally, its a bit murkier.
This is why we should get rid of the idea of Europe’s as a continent.
Screw it, it’s just an extension of Asia.

Lol... Peak 2020 woke opinion right there

I'm assuming that by "we",  you mean the US should declare Europe non-existent as a continent unilaterally. Can't say I'm surprised by the opinion.

Anyway, hope the right side, i.e. Armenians, manage to hold most of the former autonomous region in the end. Both sides hands are bloody, but Azerbaijan is more to blame for this.


Lol, imagine thinking there is a “right” side in this conflict.
Yes Nagorno-Karabakh proper is majority ethnically Armenian, but the total occupied region includes many Azeris as well. Plus, Azeris fled the land causing an massive change recently. Additionally, the land is legally Azerbaijani. That’s not a defense of the Azerbaijani belligerence this year, nor does it justify the current conflict, but to assume there is a right side is actually hilarious. It’s like thinking there is a right side in the Russia-Ukraine conflict (there isn’t by objective standards)
If you want your country to support Armenia for geopolitical reasons and are just trying to justify such by pretending there is a moral absolute here, go ahead.

Also yes, Europe is just an extension of Asia. And it’s not out of wokeness, there is definitely a solid argument to be made.




Yeah, sure, if we don't consider any aspects other than modern geography.

Imagine saying yeah I'm going to the Parthenon, you know that temple in Greece. Oh really, where's that? Ya know, western Asia lol

Whether you like it or not, Europe is the birthplace of the majority of things, raging from political ideas such as democracy all the way to medicine, that shape the developed modern world we have today.

And ignoring every other cultural aspect and calling it Asia is just absurd.

But yeah, I don't imagine you would actually consider the opinions of actual people living on the continent before saying "we" should erase it out or existence.

And as I saud, both sides have bloody hands, but ones are bloodier than the other. And I specifically said I hope they keep the autonomous region, or in Russian and other Slavic languages, Oblast, that is and was majority Armenian by a wide margin, not all occupied areas.

America ran concentration camps for Japanese Americans, and is still on the right side or WW2 in a broad context.
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Omega21
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« Reply #2 on: October 18, 2020, 02:52:46 PM »

Geographically, it is best described as Asia. Politically and culturally, its a bit murkier.
This is why we should get rid of the idea of Europe’s as a continent.
Screw it, it’s just an extension of Asia.

Lol... Peak 2020 woke opinion right there

I'm assuming that by "we",  you mean the US should declare Europe non-existent as a continent unilaterally. Can't say I'm surprised by the opinion.

Anyway, hope the right side, i.e. Armenians, manage to hold most of the former autonomous region in the end. Both sides hands are bloody, but Azerbaijan is more to blame for this.


Lol, imagine thinking there is a “right” side in this conflict.
Yes Nagorno-Karabakh proper is majority ethnically Armenian, but the total occupied region includes many Azeris as well. Plus, Azeris fled the land causing an massive change recently. Additionally, the land is legally Azerbaijani. That’s not a defense of the Azerbaijani belligerence this year, nor does it justify the current conflict, but to assume there is a right side is actually hilarious. It’s like thinking there is a right side in the Russia-Ukraine conflict (there isn’t by objective standards)
If you want your country to support Armenia for geopolitical reasons and are just trying to justify such by pretending there is a moral absolute here, go ahead.

Also yes, Europe is just an extension of Asia. And it’s not out of wokeness, there is definitely a solid argument to be made.




Yeah, sure, if we don't consider any aspects other than modern geography.

Imagine saying yeah I'm going to the Parthenon, you know that temple in Greece. Oh really, where's that? Ya know, western Asia lol

Whether you like it or not, Europe is the birthplace of the majority of things, raging from political ideas such as democracy all the way to medicine, that shape the developed modern world we have today.

And ignoring every other cultural aspect and calling it Asia is just absurd.

But yeah, I don't imagine you would actually consider the opinions of actual people living on the continent before saying "we" should erase it out or existence.

And as I saud, both sides have bloody hands, but ones are bloodier than the other. And I specifically said I hope they keep the autonomous region, or in Russian and other Slavic languages, Oblast, that is and was majority Armenian by a wide margin, not all occupied areas.

America ran concentration camps for Japanese Americans, and is still on the right side or WW2 in a broad context.
Correction: Most advances in human history came from Eurasia.
As for you second point, could you explain why Armenia is objectively better in this circumstance when compared to Azerbaijan?
What is your reasoning?


Well apart from the fact that Azerbaijan is a corrupt petrostate, it is obviously the agressor in this conflict.

Plus, considering Turkey already committed full blown genocide on the Armenians everyone should be weary of any party they support against them.
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Omega21
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« Reply #3 on: October 18, 2020, 04:02:13 PM »


Dude...you’re Austrian.

Think two seconds about the standard you are setting.

I'm a Serbian living in Austria, and since 2 of my great-grandparents were exterminated in Jasenovac, with another one spending the war in Germany in a work camp, I don't really follow your point.

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Omega21
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« Reply #4 on: October 18, 2020, 04:22:46 PM »


Dude...you’re Austrian.

Think two seconds about the standard you are setting.

I'm a Serbian living in Austria, and since 2 of my great-grandparents were exterminated in Jasenovac, with another one spending the war in Germany in a work camp, I don't really follow your point.


Welp, good thing the Serbs never committed any genocides within the past few decades!

Yeah, definitely a fair comparisson. 10,000 vs millions

Obviously one person is too much, but comparing Srebrenica to the Holocaust or the Armenian genocide makes me want to puke.
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Omega21
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2020, 03:03:19 PM »
« Edited: November 09, 2020, 03:08:21 PM by Omega21 »

I mean, was anyone actually expecting Armenia to be routed so completely?

I didn't

Azerbaijan is ages away in terms of Drone warfare.

They have very capable Turkish drones, almost comparable to US ones.

Recon and armed Drones + Conventional Artillery using the recon info from drones has proven too much for the much weaker Armenians.
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