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Question: Just want to find out who the legal experts on here are if I end up in trouble
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SillyAmerican
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« on: July 06, 2016, 07:05:44 AM »

They admitted she comitted gross negligence and then refused to indict her. They essentially laid out the evidence-outside of court-convicting her of a felony, and then said she should not be prosecuted. That in itself is the FBI comitting a felony. If they did not believe that she should be indicted, then they shouldn't have presented the evidence and stated she had comitted a felony.

If this is incorrect, can somebody correct me?

This is correct.
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SillyAmerican
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« Reply #1 on: July 06, 2016, 06:45:20 PM »

They admitted she comitted gross negligence and then refused to indict her. They essentially laid out the evidence-outside of court-convicting her of a felony, and then said she should not be prosecuted. That in itself is the FBI comitting a felony.

Really? What law does it violate?

Good question. The answer is 18 U.S. Code § 793, Subsection F:

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.
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SillyAmerican
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« Reply #2 on: July 06, 2016, 07:46:09 PM »

They admitted she comitted gross negligence and then refused to indict her. They essentially laid out the evidence-outside of court-convicting her of a felony, and then said she should not be prosecuted. That in itself is the FBI comitting a felony.

Really? What law does it violate?

Good question. The answer is 18 U.S. Code § 793, Subsection F:

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Wow. Someone else here who is smarter than the FBI.
Only SillyAmerican found and discovered this code .... the FBI missed it entirely .... I'm sure of it.

Emailking asked what statute was violated, so I told him. I'm sure Mr. Comey is keenly aware of the statutes; what folks would like to know is how, after spending 15 minutes clearly spelling out the ways in which Hillary Clinton's handling of sensitive government information was grossly negligent, the final recommendation was against indictment. I believe what Comey was actually saying that there is too little case precedent in these types of cases for him to recommend for indictment.

I'm not second guessing Mr. Comey's decision, I'd just like some clarification as to how he reached it, that's all.
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SillyAmerican
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« Reply #3 on: July 07, 2016, 03:12:45 PM »

They admitted she comitted gross negligence and then refused to indict her. They essentially laid out the evidence-outside of court-convicting her of a felony, and then said she should not be prosecuted. That in itself is the FBI comitting a felony.

Really? What law does it violate?

Good question. The answer is 18 U.S. Code § 793, Subsection F:

(f) Whoever, being entrusted with or having lawful possession or control of any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, note, or information, relating to the national defense, (1) through gross negligence permits the same to be removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of his trust, or to be lost, stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, or (2) having knowledge that the same has been illegally removed from its proper place of custody or delivered to anyone in violation of its trust, or lost, or stolen, abstracted, or destroyed, and fails to make prompt report of such loss, theft, abstraction, or destruction to his superior officer—
Shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than ten years, or both.

Wow. Someone else here who is smarter than the FBI.
Only SillyAmerican found and discovered this code .... the FBI missed it entirely .... I'm sure of it.

Emailking asked what statute was violated, so I told him.

I was asking (admittedly, sarcastically) what law the FBI violated, as Speaker Washington said that FBI committed a felony.

I don't know if you misunderstood and thought I was asking what law did Clinton violate, or if you think the FBI violated that statute. But if it's the latter, I don't see how the FBI violated that by laying out the evidence against Clinton and saying she shouldn't be prosecuted.

Ah, sorry, my misunderstanding. The FBI didn't violate any laws, they simply said that despite 110 clear instances of sensitive information being mishandled by Secretary Clinton, that there's no reason to move forward with an indictment. I'm not sure I understand how that conclusion was reached...
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