Mexico offers GPS units to illegals to aid crossing journey into the US

[Joe Republic]

I'm guessing that this money would be better spent on projects inside Mexico to actually make them a livable country.

Maybe their plan is to send all the poor people to the US so they'll only have middle class and wealthy people there and thus a livable country?

That's actually a pretty reasonable theory.  I can't honestly think of any other reason why the Mexican government would be so keen to get rid of their own citizens.

[Joe Republic]

Illegal immigrants come here for economic reasons, nothing else.  They die by the thousands trying.  The US gov't doesn't do enough to try to keep them from dying of thirst in the desert.  It is a humanitarian gesture to help keep very poor people from starving while trying to make it to a better life.

'Humanitarian gestures' may apply just so long as they adhere to our laws of the land.  If they can't respect that, why should we respect them?

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Oh quit the 'holier than thou' attitude.  It's tiresome.

Also, give me a good reason why I should care about the 'peasants' you speak of.

[Joe Republic]

You're not "intertested" (sic) in debating an issue you brought to light?  How very lazy of you.

[Joe Republic]

You're not "intertested" (sic) in debating an issue you brought to light?  How very lazy of you.

Ok fine, you should care about the well-being of other human beings because it's the right thing to do.

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I'll care about their well-being provided they respect the legal channels that are in place to deal with their desires.  Otherwise, I honestly don't mind if the buzzards feast on a bunch of criminals.

[Joe Republic]

You're not "intertested" (sic) in debating an issue you brought to light?  How very lazy of you.

Ok fine, you should care about the well-being of other human beings because it's the right thing to do.

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I'll care about their well-being provided they respect the legal channels that are in place to deal with their desires.  Otherwise, I honestly don't mind if the buzzards feast on a bunch of criminals.

To be fair, bunch of criminals or not, many of them are probably perfectly decent human beings.  And I don't believe that their crime means they deserve to die.  I don't have sympathy for their action of breaking into the country, but I can separate that from the reality that they are human beings outside of that one thing.

I didn't say that they deserve to die; I simply don't have sympathy for the plight of law-breakers.  If they only went through the proper legal channels, I'd welcome them to our country and wish them luck for their individual American dreams.

Whether you agree with the specifics of those legal channels is a different story.  But choosing to ignore the law because it's inconvenient is a pretty terrible way to behave.

[Joe Republic]

Well yeah but that pretty much begs the question of whether to allow them to come here legally...

Like I said, the specifics of the immigration laws are an entirely different debate.  I'm more than happy to allow them in legally, FWIW.  But in the mean time, the issue at hand is how we deal with those who choose to ignore and break the law, and also how to deal with a foreign government that actively encourages it...

[Joe Republic]

Just the other day you not only said that you wouldn't care if Bush died, you were positively orgasmic over the idea.

[Joe Republic]

Just the other day you not only said that you wouldn't care if Bush died, you were positively orgasmic over the idea.

That's not true.  I don't want Bush to die.  He should be put on trial and then handed over to the Sunnis.

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Uh, yes it is true.  On Christmas Day, you created a thread discussing that documentary profiling a hypothetical assassination of President Bush.  You reveled in the very idea of it; saying it was political pornography for anti-Bush folk like yourself.  The thread was deleted, but you can hardly deny it ever existed.

[Joe Republic]

I'm pretty sure that the ton of witnesses on this forum who read and responded to that thread before it was deleted by the moderators would back me up.

You're doing a bang-up job of spinning your way out of your hypocrisy, by the way.  I'm also a little flattered that you think I care if you think I'm a terrible person for not caring about the wellbeing of criminals.  (That sentence was a bit of a mindbender.)

[Joe Republic]

What?  You want to debate this instead of the fact that you just said that you don't care if people live or die?

I'm not even attempting to deny what I already said, just so long as we're clear that I'm referring specifically to criminals such as those who attempt to cross our border illegally.

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Ok, but you kinda already did.  I'll take that as a retraction from Christmas Day, however.

[Joe Republic]

What?  You want to debate this instead of the fact that you just said that you don't care if people live or die?

I'm not even attempting to deny what I already said, just so long as we're clear that I'm referring specifically to criminals such as those who attempt to cross our border illegally.

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Ok, but you kinda already did.  I'll take that as a retraction from Christmas Day, however.

Good, I'm glad you admitted that you are a monster.

I see no need for further discussion with you, even if you attempt to tarnish my with your silly lies.

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You may consider me to be a 'monster' based on that view, but you'll find I'm certainly not alone in it.  Also, your outrage is a purely subjective appeal to emotion, of course, and a fairly convenient way for you to dodge my posts.  Quite cowardly of you, I find.

Do you deny that you described the Bush assassination documentary as "political pornography" for anti-Bush folk such as yourself?