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Joe Republic
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« on: September 02, 2006, 05:25:18 AM »

Here comes Dazzle with the apologist excuses for Lincoln...suprising. Roll Eyes

What about your apologist excuses for the Founding Fathers owning slaves, which you provided just the other day?  Dazzleman said that Lincoln's quote shouldn't be judged by today's moral standards, because the context in which it was given was entirely different then.  That is pretty much exactly what you said the other day about the Fathers and their slaves.
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Joe Republic
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« Reply #1 on: September 03, 2006, 06:48:17 AM »

So then you approve of suspending Habeaus Corpus, throwing political opponents in jail with no trial date and for an indefinite period of time and you agree with shutting down the free presses. Ok, don't every call Bushs' very minor offenses "bad" ever again.

If you support the ongoing use of Guantanamo Bay, and agree with Ann Coulter's views on how to deal with the 'liberal media', then I fail to see how you can use that as an argument against Lincoln.
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Joe Republic
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« Reply #2 on: September 03, 2006, 07:37:32 AM »

Alright, what about the Presidential Military Order of November 13th 2001, which allows for the indefinite detainment of any American citizen who the government feels like declaring as an 'enemy combatant', which contravenes habeas corpus and certain parts of the Bill of Rights?

Also, if you have a problem with Lincoln's suspension of habeas corpus (which obviously I do as well), then you should feel exactly the same way about Jefferson Davis doing the same thing in the CSA.
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