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Question: What undermimes marriage more?
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High divorce rates, marriages of convenience and Vegas style quickie marriages etc
 
#2
Gays and lesbians wanting to marry.
 
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Joe Republic
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« on: June 26, 2006, 06:48:33 PM »

Inks: Tell me, when did you choose to be straight?
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« Reply #1 on: June 26, 2006, 06:51:37 PM »

I'm not--I am saying is if you believe in abortion, then you should believe homosexuality is a conscious choice

That doesn't make logical sense.


Edit: You beat me to it, Tweed.
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« Reply #2 on: June 26, 2006, 06:59:01 PM »

Inks, you really ought to remember that not everyone is a Christian.  It's vitally important that you remember that, okay?
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« Reply #3 on: June 26, 2006, 07:01:38 PM »

Wait, are you still arguing that being gay is a conscious choice?  I thought we cleared that up for you several pages back?
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« Reply #4 on: June 26, 2006, 07:11:35 PM »

Wait, are you still arguing that being gay is a conscious choice?  I thought we cleared that up for you several pages back?

When on earth did I ever say that it's not a conscious choice?

..... Uh.  Read my post again...
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« Reply #5 on: June 26, 2006, 07:15:08 PM »

Does anybody else here feel like we talking to a brick wall?
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« Reply #6 on: June 27, 2006, 05:16:43 AM »

Going back to whether being gay is a conscious choice or not, and it seems that Inks is still clinging desperately to that argument, here's another two little nuggets.

First, if being gay is such a sinful and terrible thing to do, why would somebody 'choose' it?  I mean, some gay people grow up in deeply religious areas, where they have been indoctrinated to hate gay people.  Many gay people who are already 'out' are also deeply ashamed of it, or would at least prefer to be straight.

For example, my former co-worker is gay, but said that if he'd actually had a choice, he would have been straight.  He's not necessarily ashamed of what he is; he said that he's perfectly happy being gay, but would be happier being straight.  So if he 'chose' to be gay in the first place, why can't he then change back?

Second, I found this article on today's BBC website.  Apparently scientists now believe that there are certain conditions in the mother's womb that determine whether the baby will become gay; it seems to have a lot to do with the number of older biological siblings.  Nothing to do with conscious decision making.
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« Reply #7 on: June 27, 2006, 01:45:16 PM »

By the way, unless I'm mistaken, I don't think anybody has yet pointed out that the word is 'undermine'. Wink
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« Reply #8 on: June 27, 2006, 02:39:33 PM »

What about people who are simply divorced from reality?
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