VOTE NAY ON NORTHEAST BILLS

[Joe Republic]

Would it help if the bill was completely rewritten to be more specific?  I recommend some co-operation here, instead of just shouting at each other over things you actually agree on in principle.

[Joe Republic]

Would it help if the bill was completely rewritten to be more specific?  I recommend some co-operation here, instead of just shouting at each other over things you actually agree on in principle.

I don't agree in principle with these issues Mr. President-Elect.

Not even the death penalty one?  I never realized you supported giving awful criminals an easy escape for their crimes, where they don't have to actually feel remorse or regret, or feel the consequences of their actions.  I never realized 'MASPAC' was such a far-left liberal organization.

[Joe Republic]

Um, Joe, far-leftists tend to oppose the death penalty, not support it.

MASPAC is not a far left liberal organization at all. The liberal folks are against the use of the death penalty. I am for the use of the death penalty.

Yes, this appears to be one of those issues where the left-right spectrum appears to be mixed up.  Provided that anti-death penalty supporters advocate a much worse punishment instead, then its a pretty right wing perspective.  Supporting the death penalty, and thus supporting an easy escape for criminals, sounds pretty liberal to me.

[Joe Republic]

Nobody who supports the death penalty does so because it's an easy escape for criminals.

This is something I've never understood.  Anybody with a brain can see that killing a prisoner does not give them much opportunity to realize exactly what they did, perhaps feel remorse, or allow us to truly punish them.  I would prefer to let murderers and rapists et al suffer for as long as they can naturally survive.

[Joe Republic]

Nobody who supports the death penalty does so because it's an easy escape for criminals.

This is something I've never understood.  Anybody with a brain can see that killing a prisoner does not give them much opportunity to realize exactly what they did, perhaps feel remorse, or allow us to truly punish them.  I would prefer to let murderers and rapists et al suffer for as long as they can naturally survive.

99% of prisons today are not what I would classify as suffering to those within their walls.  As someone else has put it quite aptly on this forum, it's akin to vacationing at a bad hotel.

Now, if murderers who were sentenced to life in prison without parole, were made to do hard labor 12-16 hours a day, live in solitary confinement and forbidden from seeing no one from the outside world for the rest of their life, I would certainly give thought to changing my mind on the death penalty, as this would qualify as suffering to me.

I fully agree with everything you said.  Our prisons need to become rat-infested sh**t-holes, or otherwise punishing them is a complete waste of time.

[Joe Republic]

They're eye-catching, though, which is the point.

Not for me - I blocked those eyesores before I even read what they said.

[Joe Republic]

Actually this one is only marginally less of an eyesore:

[Joe Republic]

See, MAS, this is what you get for supporting Earl/Reese over Phil/King.

But I don't think Earl has ever called MAS an idiot or a jackass, etc.