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twenty42
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« on: August 13, 2018, 02:32:20 PM »

So the guy claiming to be a “real” Republican managed to win 13% of the primary vote and one state out of 50.

Go away, John.
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twenty42
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« Reply #1 on: August 16, 2018, 04:42:29 AM »

Sorry John, its time to leave, give it up.  The party went crazy and all the sane people have jumped ship. Join us 😊

Problem is the Dems are terrible to and are getting much worse .


If only the Blue Dogs were still there

People like you really need to make up your mind.

If the Democrats are THAT bad, THAT awful, then stop demonizing Trump.  He may be a yucky-yucky, but he believes  in the vast majority of what you believe in.

If they're not, join them.  Or be an independent like me.  I'm a registered Republican, but an independent voter, and I'm certainly not voting for Rick Scott for anything.

Trump did the hard work of actually offering Republicans a choice as to what it meant to be a Republican, and a number of protectionist Perot-voters and their families that had abandoned the party in 1992 (but voted GOP in downballot races) were still there, and now, they were being counted.  The biggest businessman in the race made his cause with them, and not with the Business Roundtable.  And he won.  That indicates to me that guys like Kasich really didn't have an idea as to who was exactly in their party.

I don’t understand why more people don’t see it this way. I cringe at a lot of things Trump says and he is certainly no Reagan, but at the end of the day I agree with more of his political stances than I disagree with.

Even if you’re a Republican who despises Trump personally, I still don’t understand why you’d be happier right now with Clinton in office. We would’ve never gotten the tax cut, the mandate would’ve never been repealed, and we would be on our way to the second Hillary-appointed SCOTUS judge in the less than two years. You could argue that we’d probably win the 2018 midterms under President Clinton, but so what? Having a lock on Congress doesn’t mean much when you continue to keep losing presidential elections...the Democrats of the 80s taught us that.

The fact is that the neocon, Queensbury rules type of Republicanism that Kasich espouses isn’t calibrated to win 270 EV’s in 2010s America. We nominated moderate conservatives who took the high road in 2008 and 2012, and we lost both times. A lot of Republicans don’t seem to appreciate that they have the White House now because Trump did what McCain and Romney couldn’t do, and that he is still 100 times better for their agenda than Obama or Clinton.
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twenty42
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« Reply #2 on: August 16, 2018, 10:34:37 AM »

One thing that might happen if Kasich runs as an Independent in 2020, that I haven't seen anyone mention yet, is that in getting, say, 10% of the PV, he might pull more votes from 2016 Clinton voters than 2016 Trump voters (akin to the effect John Anderson had in 1980). This would probably result in Trump winning, and possibly even winning the PV.

I don’t see it happening. As much as libs want to kiss McCain and Kasich’s rear ends when it comes to trashing Trump, they’re voting straight D on Election Day.
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