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« on: January 09, 2006, 11:55:57 AM »

How to Stay Out of Power
Why liberal democrats are playing too fast and too loose with issues of war and peace

"For too many liberals, all secret intelligence activities are "fruit," and bitter fruit at that. The government is presumed guilty of illegal electronic eavesdropping until proven innocent. This sort of civil-liberties fetishism is a hangover from the Vietnam era, when the Nixon Administration wildly exceeded all bounds of legality—spying on antiwar protesters and civil rights leaders...

"At the very least, the Administration should have acted, with alacrity, to update the federal intelligence laws to include the powerful new technologies developed by the NSA. But these concerns pale before the importance of the program. It would have been a scandal if the NSA had not been using these tools to track down the bad guys. There is evidence that the information harvested helped foil several plots and disrupt al-Qaeda operations...

"There is also evidence, according to U.S. intelligence officials, that since the New York Times broke the story, the terrorists have modified their behavior, hampering our efforts to keep track of them—but also, on the plus side, hampering their ability to communicate with one another."

"In fact, liberal Democrats are about as far from the American mainstream on these issues as Republicans were when they invaded the privacy of Terri Schiavo's family in the right-to-die case last year.

"But there is a difference. National security is a far more important issue, and until the Democrats make clear that they will err on the side of aggressiveness in the war against al-Qaeda, they will probably not regain the majority in Congress or the country."
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« Reply #1 on: January 09, 2006, 01:06:12 PM »

OK, so Democrats support warrantless wiretaps on foreign terrorists, but not on U.S. citizens?  What if there is an international phone call from one to the other?  Do they support or oppose warrantless monitoring of those communications?

I guess thats where the emergency 72 hour provision comes into play.  72 hours to gather whatever information you need, but after that you must get a warrant.  Im not 100% sure though, just throwing it out there.
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