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Enduro
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« on: December 24, 2017, 03:10:45 PM »

I saw the film yesterday, and I thought it was a very well done film. Some things I thought were stupid. Rey's parents being one of them.

The little boy at the end of the film who forced the broom to himself, and had the resistance ring. Could he be the basis of Rian's next trilogy?
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« Reply #1 on: December 25, 2017, 07:54:18 PM »

I saw the film yesterday, and I thought it was a very well done film. Some things I thought were stupid. Rey's parents being one of them.

The little boy at the end of the film who forced the broom to himself, and had the resistance ring. Could he be the basis of Rian's next trilogy?
No because his movies aren’t going to be 10/11/12 there totally new.

Rian Johnson's films have nothing to do with the Skywalker saga.

And that kid has anything to do with the Skywalker saga? He's never even met a Skywalker.
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« Reply #2 on: December 27, 2017, 05:24:27 PM »

I saw the film yesterday, and I thought it was a very well done film. Some things I thought were stupid. Rey's parents being one of them.

The little boy at the end of the film who forced the broom to himself, and had the resistance ring. Could he be the basis of Rian's next trilogy?
No because his movies aren’t going to be 10/11/12 there totally new.

Rian Johnson's films have nothing to do with the Skywalker saga.

And that kid has anything to do with the Skywalker saga? He's never even met a Skywalker.
Well if he is let’s say one of Rey’s first students at the new Jedi order then that is going to be a main series film. Now I wouldn’t be surprised if the new trilogy explains stuff about snoke.
I guess it's too early to tell; we'll have to see the last film to determine if it will have the kid. This also begs the question: will the main series be continued at the same time as Johnson's films?
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Enduro
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« Reply #3 on: December 27, 2017, 05:29:40 PM »

Btw, for a Star Wars film (i.e. a franchise pretty much guaranteed to top $600 million on brand name alone no matter what) Last Jedi is not doing well at all (especially domestically) and we should remember it needs to top $800 million just to have any chance of breaking even when you factor in things like marketing and costs outside of the formal budget.

I've seen this mentioned before. Is this really true though? This seems more like a "Hollywood Accounting" figure as opposed to something realistic. The film's official budget was $200 million, and even if you factor in another $200 million (+/-) for marketing/etc (which is a lot), that's still only 400. I read this for The Force Awakens (link)

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Which definitely sounds more realistic. I don't understand how TLJ could cost almost a billion dollars. It doesn't make sense to me unless they were holding money bonfires every night during production.

Also ftr it does appear to have surpassed 800 million so far.

The general rule of thumb is that a movie has to make 3 times it's production budget to be successful.
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Enduro
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« Reply #4 on: December 27, 2017, 05:36:57 PM »

The film has its issues and it is clearly no Empire Strikes Back, but I find it a bit silly to see people attempting to brand it as a catastrophic failure in terms of performance (when it isn't) or even worse, as I've seen in other places, as if The Last Jedi was somehow worse than The Phantom Menace or done worse things than some of the most ridiculous moments in the entire saga.

One can question why they made certain decisions on where to move the story in TLJ (I liked the film and yet I strongly disagree with some of those creative choices), but come on, even the Original Trilogy has moments as ridiculous as a bunch of glorified teddy bears defeating what are supposed to be the best troops in the whole Galactic Empire.

I agree, it's a well done film, but also feels like an insult to the franchise as a whole. In my opinion, the fact that it's a good film is the worst part. I wish I could say what a horrible movie this was, but the only thing wrong with it is the disregard for continuity, and lack of vision for setting up a third film.
It ain't as bad as the prequels, or the teddy bear sequence, but it is my least favorite of the new films.
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« Reply #5 on: December 27, 2017, 07:03:03 PM »

I agree, it's a well done film, but also feels like an insult to the franchise as a whole. In my opinion, the fact that it's a good film is the worst part. I wish I could say what a horrible movie this was, but the only thing wrong with it is the disregard for continuity, and lack of vision for setting up a third film.
It ain't as bad as the prequels, or the teddy bear sequence, but it is my least favorite of the new films.

Actually, I think you hit what I see as the heart of the problem with some of the reactions thus far. There is a difference between finding TLJ a good or bad film and whether one personally likes it or dislikes it (as it's aptly showcased on your post), but it seems to me the rather vocal group of fans who thinks of TLJ's events as some sort of heresy are prepared to burn the whole ship down and brand the movie a disaster (or portray it as such as much as possible) just because they disapprove of the choices that were made.

Yes, thank you, one of other film that has done the same thing as this one is Captain America: Civil War. It's a good film, and the Russo Brothers did excellent direction, but I felt like they could've done a better job adapting the comic.
I don't think the choices will ruin the Star Wars franchise, but they do give J.J. a harder job to finish the trilogy. A lot harder than starting the trilogy and reintroducing movie goers to some of the most loved characters of all time was.
People who think that's gonna happen miss the fact that Star Wars survived Jar Jar Binks and Hayden's acting in the second episode.
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2017, 10:06:48 PM »

Feel the same way about the droids, and I feel like Princess Leia is the only OT character that has been used to full effect in the new films.
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