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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #150 on: October 04, 2018, 09:05:19 PM »

Democratic Kansas



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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,644
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« Reply #151 on: November 10, 2018, 11:25:50 PM »

If Atlas was more right



D+1 in the senate. MI is now viewed as pickup opportunity for GOP in 2020 provided they are competitive. AL is a stand in for MS-S, while MN-S is same as OTL.

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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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« Reply #152 on: November 10, 2018, 11:42:12 PM »



Last gubernatorial election in all states.

314-218-3 GOP



288-250 DEM
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,644
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Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

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« Reply #153 on: November 11, 2018, 10:52:13 PM »



Trump was credited with handling the 2019 market dip sorta maybe OK-ish and he made his stand with Southron support, but his inability to win the popular vote came back to bite him and concern over the tariffs lost him even Iowa, which he needed to even have a chance at winning. The Democratic running mate Gov. Pollis. was rumored to have been picked to bail him out from legal troubles, but this scandal didn't have enough staying power beyond mid-September.

Senator Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) / Governor Jared Polis (D-CO) 295

President Donald Trump (R-NY) / VP Mike Pence (R-IN) 243



President Kirsten Gillibrand (D-NY) / VP Jared Polis (D-CO) 341

Governor Brian Kemp (R-GA) / (some congressman from a northern state) 197

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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,644
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Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

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« Reply #154 on: November 18, 2018, 12:00:53 AM »

Here's how I think it would go:



360-178 GOP (like IN)

Here's how it could go if the nation voted near an inverted margin relative to the 1974 midterm generic ballot:



418-120 GOP (like TX)

Obama may be forced to resign in November, as little as a week after his landslide defeat. President Biden serves as the 45th president for at least a month, probably two, and pardons both President Obama and SoS Hillary Clinton (who also resigned, possibly before the election). Mitt Romney is inaugurated as the 46th president in January 2013.

Romney is beatable if the Democrats harness outsider energy (Sanders=Reagan analogue) but it's not impossible for them to nominate Clinton somehow or some other DLCesque hack and give Romney another four years.

Looking forward, 2020 is Lean D either with the reelection of a popular Democratic outsider president or with the 8 year itch needing scratched.

First of two potential 2016s



President Romney / VP Ryan 327

Former President Joe Biden (or maybe even Clinton, it really depends on how much blame she gets for watergate) / Generic D Running Mate 211

First of two potential 2020s



Senator Russ Feingold 269+

VP Paul Ryan 206(=/+)

Feingold will be the winner, as he will win at least one of the gray states. This is the situation on election before this happens. It is possible for him to win them all, not possible for the inverse.

Second of two potential 2016s



Sen. Bernie Sanders / Ticket Balancing Generic D 291

President Romney / VP Ryan 247

Second of two potential 2020s



President Bernie Sanders / VP 332

Charismatic but very nutty R / R running mate 206

The Republicans use anti-semitic dog whistles during the 2020 campaign, which hurts them dearly downballot in the NYC and Miami metros. Of course, another thing that hurts the Republicans is President Sanders' popularity and the success of his agenda. Obama's personal popularity has rebounded since his resignation but Democrats are moving away from him politically.
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,644
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Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

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« Reply #155 on: November 26, 2018, 12:18:41 AM »



Trump 2016 in green vs. Bush 2004 in blue. Trump only barely wins!

ID is a difference of 20 votes, so is left gray. Key is <1% margin is 20%, <5% is 30% and up from there.
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,644
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Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

P P P
« Reply #156 on: November 26, 2018, 09:26:06 PM »



Trump 2016 in green vs. Bush 2004 in blue. Trump only barely wins!

ID is a difference of 20 votes, so is left gray. Key is <1% margin is 20%, <5% is 30% and up from there.

BS, how does Trump do better in Virginia?

2016 Trump 1,769,443 (44.43%) +52,484

2004 Bush II 1,716,959 (53.68%)

This is per overall number of votes, which means it's heavily influenced by population changes over 12 years. Same reason Bush narrowly won all the Kerry voting Upper Midwest, while Trump killed it in Nevada and Arizona.
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,644
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Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

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« Reply #157 on: December 10, 2018, 11:51:29 PM »
« Edited: December 10, 2018, 11:55:16 PM by Ohio ain't Safe R »

2020



President Donald Trump / Vice President Mike Pence 279 EV

Senator Kamala Harris / Representative Tim Ryan 259 EV

The 2020 election would be a total letdown for the Democrats. When the dust settled, only two states, Arizona and Michigan, would flip in an election seen as a rerun of four years earlier. Although Wisconsin was close, Michigan was once again the closest state, and by raw vote margins Minnesota was closer than Wisconsin. Trump broke 60% in Missouri and the popular vote was close to a tie.

Donald Trump's health was ailing, and as he put on his best face for the nation he was the subject of great sympathy. There was an understanding among Republicans that a vote for Trump was a vote for Pence. This came true as Trump resigned in late 2021, and Mike Pence became the 46th President.

2024:



Senator Beto O'Rouke, who had won his seat in 2020 in an otherwise disappointing race for Democrats, would win a close primary against Senator Sherrod Brown. Beto would go on to triumph against President Pence who was trying to run for his own term. Pence was only barely break Ohio's winning streak as his resources were diverted to Georgia, Florida, and above all Texas. In the end, he somehow came close to losing Kansas of all places. 

2028:



President Beto wins against a deeply divided opposition. Two separate "Republican" candidates run (one officially under the Libertarian party), and spend far more time attacking each other than the President. By election day, the President was assured of victory and the Republican party would be split for over a decade. The latter result was not even expected after election day, but the split within the party would be far worse than 1912. This election marks the end of the 6th party system.

2032 Democratic Primary



In 2031, as the Republican party continued to further fracture and bicker with itself while the economic slumped, many believed that the Democratic primary could be the "real" election next year. Vast numbers of Republicans and Independents registered as Democrats to have a say in which woman the party should nominate: Beto's chosen successor, Secretary Torres from New Mexico, or Governor Margaret Weber of North Dakota. Weber (Green) was economically more left wing than her neoliberal opponent but was perceived as more compromising on social issues. After winning the primary, Weber easily won the general election without much in the way of united opposition.

Weber, finally the first female President, also won a second term for herself in 2036. However, it was becoming clear that competition in the open election of 2040 would not come from within the increasingly fragile Democratic party, but from without...
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bagelman
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 8,644
United States


Political Matrix
E: -4.90, S: -4.17

P P P
« Reply #158 on: December 18, 2018, 08:18:29 PM »


what?
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