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Question: Regardless if you believe that Roe v Wade is legally sound/dubious, do you support pro-life or pro-choice public policies?
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Kingpoleon
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« on: September 30, 2020, 08:38:58 PM »

100% pro-life (NO EXCEPTIONS!!), and I'd probably write someone in this year if this issue weren't so important to me.
So, with a six seat conservative majority, and the oldest conservative Justice being 71, you still don’t feel comfortable?

Also, I should point out that I have met one person ever who was consistently pro-life. If I thought aborting a four day old fetus was the same as killing a newborn, I don’t think I could oppose attacks on abortion clinics unless I was a pacifist. Since very few people do support such attacks, I found it doubtful that many people really think it’s comparable to mass murder of newborn babies.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #1 on: September 30, 2020, 11:17:08 PM »

Even if ExtremeRepublican didn't bite the bullet and gave the answer you treated as the obvious default, this is an awful metaphor that means nothing. Most people would save a human over a dog but that's not a defense of killing dogs.
The pro life movement has taken on in recent years the idea that killing a fetus, even as a zygote, is not just manslaughter, or some lesser form of murder, but perfectly and totally equal to killing a newborn baby.

It’s without legal (or Scriptural) precedent, but it’s certainly not an unusual stance.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2020, 08:50:41 PM »

The difference, of course, is that pro-lifers argue that fetuses are people and should have all of the exact same rights as a person. If someone were making that case about dogs, then choosing between a human and a dog should logically be a choice between equals. It's a completely valid thought experiment, though in this case all it proved was that ExtremeRepublican is ideologically consistent in his wacko beliefs.
I should note: it is perfectly okay to be against abortion in all cases without having to say you believe a zygote is entirely morally equal to a fetus at thirty five weeks, just like it’s okay to say that it is less evil to punch someone once in the face than to beat them unconscious.
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