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  Do you support Catalan independence from Spain? (search mode)
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Kingpoleon
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« on: September 09, 2017, 11:07:17 PM »

I support self-determination, as I am not a blatant imperialist.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #1 on: September 12, 2017, 10:46:38 PM »

Yes. Spain is an artificial nation based on Castilian supremacy.
TIL all nations aren't "artificial."

Spain was based on the subjugation of the cultures of Aragon and, to a lesser extent, Grenada - so much so that the Aragonese language, culture and history is tragically gone.
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Kingpoleon
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2017, 11:16:59 PM »

No. Catalan Nationalism seems to be mainly based on a smug superiority over southerners, like if the Northern League pretended to be left.

Nationalism is a curse, especially by thr "left". Imagine if all those young leftist activists matching for yet another nation-state put their efforts into something that actually helped the cause?

What about Palestinian nationalism?

also bad, as is Israeli nationalism (i.e. Zionism of an exclusive character). I do not see why either ordinary Israelis or Palestinians will be helped out by a "two-state solution" which bifurcates a territory which should be a home for both groups of people into two weaker, gerrymanderd states at  permanent odds with each other. If Jews wish to settle in the West Bank and Gaza that is their right, and if Palestinians wish to return to their homeland that is also their right. Unfortunately, would require overturning all the nationalists on both sides with no interest in uniting people, and only in the right-wing identity politics that proclaims that "nation-states" should be created to be safe spaces for an ethnicity or language.

Pretty sure that opinion is shared by Benny Begin...
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