Grover Cleveland vs. Woodrow Wilson

[Kingpoleon]

Cleveland didn't start the most immoral war that is still defended today by a majority of people.

Wilson finished Cleveland's economic policies, solidifying the gold standard with the Federal Reserve. He is the President most responsible for the Great Depression.

[Kingpoleon]

Cleveland didn't start the most immoral war that is still defended today by a majority of people.

Good point; Gavrilo Princip was certainly a terrible president. I can't think of a single positive accomplishment of his administration; he might as well have never been elected!

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WWI had far worse effects than Cleveland's Presidency.

[Kingpoleon]

Cleveland didn't start the most immoral war that is still defended today by a majority of people.

Good point; Gavrilo Princip was certainly a terrible president. I can't think of a single positive accomplishment of his administration; he might as well have never been elected!

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WWI had far worse effects than Cleveland's Presidency.

But what was Wilson supposed to do? He tried extensively for at least two years to get the Allies & Central Powers to negotiate a peace, to no avail. And it's quite difficult to argue that America's economic power didn't give the Allies the advantage necessary to end the war in Nov. 1918 as opposed to 1921 or whenever.

Without Wilson's Points, Germany wouldn't have been punished so harshly.

Furthermore, if the French mutiny had continued without America showing up, there would eventually either be a German victory an essential tie. Either way prevents the rise of Hitler.

[Kingpoleon]

Cleveland was an FF and a friend of the taxpayer; Wilson['s] instituted the income tax and his... second term was a bigger disaster than Cleveland's. Cleveland.

Why on earth would I ever agree with you minus the crossed out part?

[Kingpoleon]

Cleveland deserves credit for not being a dick to weaker nations.

It seems to me many think: Sure, he didn't destroy the losers of a war he barely fought in, but remember his... economic policies which were so bad?

His economic policies weren't even that bad. I don't get why he's worse than an imperialistic, pro-eugenics racist.