RINO Tom/Rockefeller GOP v. Santander/Southern Gothic

[Kingpoleon]

A socially left wing(-4.0) and economically centrist(0.0) Republican versus the exact opposite Democrat. Who do you vote for?/Who wins?

Discuss with or without maps.

[Kingpoleon]

Potential map:

280(R) - 258(D)

[Kingpoleon]

Wow, couple of RINOs in this thread!

You're the third.

[Kingpoleon]

Wow, couple of RINOs in this thread!

You're the third.

Gotta love when Indies call anyone at all a RINO, LOL.

I was being sarcastic, you stupid son of a rhino.

(P. S.: That was sarcasm, too.)


As for RINO Tom/Goldwater, I think Goldwater's libertarian and healthcare views are pretty fairly at odds with Tom's neoliberalism.

In this election, I'd probably support Tom, but his support of people like Bloomberg and Clinton would make it somewhat difficult. Santander's personality is probably a bit more charismatic.

[Kingpoleon]

My deepest apologies. I had just heard rumors that got me worried.

Everyone right of center has rumours about them on Atlas. I'm a far-right Neo-Nazi 'centrist' who is only sane compared to the Republicans.

[Kingpoleon]

It is WAY too important to you guys' self-inflated images of yourselves and your party to believe what you currently do about Southern realignment, and I'm fine with letting you continue to believe that.

I'm glad you managed to point out the blatant nonsense implied in IceSpear's satire.

[Kingpoleon]

Sometimes, I wonder if West Virginia didn't become a GOP stronghold in order to troll RINO Tom haha

I mean, they probably just got tired of voting for a party that had kept them poor for decades.

In that case, Mississippi should dump all their Republicans that have kept them poor for decades.

But we all know why that won't happen...

MS did dump the party that had kept it poor for decades, and it now enjoys GOP control.  If we're going to give both parties an equal shot to fix the mess that is MS, we can check back in in about 80 years.

In all my experience regarding elections in the South, economics is rarely an issue that is stressed. The social divide between Democrats and Republicans is really what it comes down to in our elections. When you look at the platforms of the individual Republican parties, there are entire novels written about opposing the President and pushing for conservative social reform. With maybe a line here or there thrown out about the free market.

Aren't you a self-described socially conservative Democrat?

Socially conservative compared to the national Democrats. Socially liberal compared to Louisiana Democrats

Okay, but did you not just disprove your point?  If LA Democrats are socially conservative, especially compared to a Democrat who's socially conservative compared to the national party, then obviously statewide elections (which is what is relevant here) aren't completely about social issues and highlight at least some economic differences.  People seem to gloss over the '70s, '80s and '90s, but the South was effectively a battleground region.  Republicans didn't gain control of the region until into the 2000s, and they were running against Democrats and losing ... in any election, anywhere, the two candidates are going to highlight their differences.  The Republicans of 2016 I can't speak to, but the Republicans who slowly started defeating Southern Democrats were convincing voters to try something new, and both candidates were pretty much the same on social issues ... eventually, many Southerners did try something new.

Whether you want to deflect this or not, there is a direct relationship between Republicans gaining more power in the South and the region becoming more developed, less poor and less backward.

In case you're looking for proof of this, remember that the Rockefellers were extremely successful as progressive Republicans in Arkansas as late as 2006.

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It is so beyond discussion that WV can be considered a Southern state.

If northern Arkansas is red, Missouri is red.

[Kingpoleon]

franklin church

Actually, his first name was just Frank.

well i will say franklin

Do you go to Franklin Church?