Whe are some people so opposes to Private Schools?

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I don't get it.  Private schools are amongst the biggest pet-peeves of the more liberal posters here.  Why do they hate private schools so much?

Personally I think it is because most private schools are of a religious nature and most hardcore liberals hate relgion, especially Christianity.  Liberals would rather have children go to secular public institutions and corrupt their faiths, than let them ave free-choice in schooling.

That's just my opinion though.  Am I wrong liberals?  Is there another reason why you all seem to hate private schools?

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I don't get it.  Private schools are amongst the biggest pet-peeves of the more liberal posters here.  Why do they hate private schools so much?

Personally I think it is because most private schools are of a religious nature and most hardcore liberals hate relgion, especially Christianity.  Liberals would rather have children go to secular public institutions and corrupt their faiths, than let them ave free-choice in schooling.

That's just my opinion though.  Am I wrong liberals?  Is there another reason why you all seem to hate private schools?

No you are quite correct - I object to indoctrination of youth into cults by their tyrannical parents. 

well...........

at least you're honest.........

Why do you hate Christians so much, Opebo?

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I don't like intolerants interesting themselves in my business.

You seem okay inserting yourself into these so-called intolerants' business, with your opposition to people being able to teach their own children.

No, the distinction there is that they are oppressing their children by forcing them into certain kinds of indoctrination.  My 'interference' is similar to the interference of the State in the activities of a kidnapper.  If I were to vote for the State to interfere in this I would be voting to protect the freedom and rights of the children, not interefering with the parents' rights.   This is assuming we define a child as a person, rather than a mere chattel of the parent.

I'm of two minds on this - obviously the results of allowing parents unlimited power over their children will be horrific, however it is impractical to fully remove children from the parent's grasp. 

what the hell is up with all of this "child'right's" Bullsh**t?

Children are under the authority of their parents.  That means that parents are responsible for their children, not the children for themselves.

A parent should be able to determine how their child will be educated. 


Truth is people like Opebo ould rather see a child put through a violent, interachieving public school than private one that has high standards and results.

liberal selfishness and jealousy at its worst.

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Oh, I get it. So banning free speech, then, is not restricting anyone's freedom, because you're really protecting people from the oppression of different kinds of indoctrination.

No, children are generally under the dictatorial control of parents.  The point is that they are prevented from hearing opposing points of view particularly in private schools.

It's the public schools that cram a one-sided politically correct secularist view down our children's throats.  the worst part is the kids and parents have no say in it.  

If children are under the "dictorial" control of parents then parents are held hostage for 18 years raising their kids.  With that control comes responsibilty and accountibility.

Honestly, Opebo, you have said some pretty stupid things and have expressed some pretty stupid ideas on this board.  I am not sure just how stupid this one is but i would say it's average stupidity for you.

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Opebo is just afraid that children might remain Christians if educated in public schools.

Opebo is a God-hater, that is why everything he says is so ridiculous.

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Opebo is a God-hater, that is why everything he says is so ridiculous.

I find it hard to hate something that doesn't exist.

How do I know that you exist, that you're a real person and not some Artificial-Unintelligent computer program posting stupid ideas and thoughts?  Because honestly If I had to pick from you being an AU or a real person, I'd pick the former.

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Opebo is a God-hater, that is why everything he says is so ridiculous.

I find it hard to hate something that doesn't exist.

How do I know that you exist, that you're a real person and not some Artificial-Unintelligent computer program posting stupid ideas and thoughts?  Because honestly If I had to pick from you being an AU or a real person, I'd pick the former.

Why? You have realized that a lot of people don't believe in God anymore?

A welfare reciepient is dependent on welfare because he's poor of wealth.

A fanatic is dependent on religion because he's poor of intelligence.

Another quote leading me to believe that you're an AU program.  Intelligence and religious beliefs have no correlation.

[senatortombstone]

Look, I'm a liberal, and yea, I pretty much do hate religion, but does the government have the right to tell parents what is best for their kids? Absolutely not.  And even though I can agree with you alot of the time opebo, calling religious parents tyranical (sp?) is going a little far.  Just as you and me think prevention of religion in our houses would be best, the conserative crowd probably feels just as strongly if not more that Christian or relgious values are essential in life.  Do I like it?  No, but if you are going to fight for individual freedom, like any true liberal does, you also have to remember you're fighting for the freedoms of everybody, not just those that agree with you.  We both want government off ours backs and stop telling us what's best.  If we stopped parents from doing things we don't like, aren't we just as bad?  Gotta take the good with the bad man. 

I was only thinking of the children - the poor, defenseless children at the mercy of religious parents, indoctrinating them into their sick cults.  I don't know that individual rights and freedoms necessarily extend to the right to own/abuse your child.  Obviously at some point we must extend individual rights and freedoms to that child, at the expense of tyrannical parental power.

Secularism is the sickest cult of all. 

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Secularism is the sickest cult of all. 

When has anyone commited an atrocity or murder or some other crime in the name of Agnosticism? The answer is never.

The whole zealous faith over reason promotes such behavior. It is a small step from putting faith over science (such as believing it's even remotely feasible to have 2 of each species of animal on a wooden boat) to believing you are justified in murdering someone you believe to be a witch ("Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live") and so on.

Religion promotes self-justification over external science/reason and so many evil deeds begin with self-righteousness. I do not say Religion makes good people evil; I simply say that it is a wonderful garden for growing evil.

As far as we are all prone to imperfections. Bull. I will never use my humanity as an excuse for failing; and indeed I would love to see a murderer argue that, as a human, he was simply imperfect.

Great post Marxist!  I could not agree more.  Religion is the source of nearly all the intolerance and misery in the world.

I know it's the damn religion of dictators like Lenin, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot, Idi Amin, Hitler and so on.  Their belief in God has brought ruin uopon the world.

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Look, I'm a liberal, and yea, I pretty much do hate religion, but does the government have the right to tell parents what is best for their kids? Absolutely not.  And even though I can agree with you alot of the time opebo, calling religious parents tyranical (sp?) is going a little far.  Just as you and me think prevention of religion in our houses would be best, the conserative crowd probably feels just as strongly if not more that Christian or relgious values are essential in life.  Do I like it?  No, but if you are going to fight for individual freedom, like any true liberal does, you also have to remember you're fighting for the freedoms of everybody, not just those that agree with you.  We both want government off ours backs and stop telling us what's best.  If we stopped parents from doing things we don't like, aren't we just as bad?  Gotta take the good with the bad man. 

I was only thinking of the children - the poor, defenseless children at the mercy of religious parents, indoctrinating them into their sick cults.  I don't know that individual rights and freedoms necessarily extend to the right to own/abuse your child.  Obviously at some point we must extend individual rights and freedoms to that child, at the expense of tyrannical parental power.

Secularism is the sickest cult of all. 

When has anyone commited an atrocity or murder or some other crime in the name of Agnosticism? The answer is never.

The whole zealous faith over reason promotes such behavior. It is a small step from putting faith over science (such as believing it's even remotely feasible to have 2 of each species of animal on a wooden boat) to believing you are justified in murdering someone you believe to be a witch ("Thou shalt not suffer a witch to live") and so on.

Religion promotes self-justification over external science/reason and so many evil deeds begin with self-righteousness. I do not say Religion makes good people evil; I simply say that it is a wonderful garden for growing evil.

As far as we are all prone to imperfections. Bull. I will never use my humanity as an excuse for failing; and indeed I would love to see a murderer argue that, as a human, he was simply imperfect.

You obviously know nothing about true Christianity.  I'll give you a hint.  It is the emulation of Jesus' life on Earth.