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« on: April 02, 2021, 12:42:30 PM »

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Capitol Police opened fire at the north barricade of the Capitol complex, law enforcement sources tell ABC News. Two officers are said to be injured, one critically, the sources said. That officer has been transported to the hospital.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/shots-fired-at-us-capitol-barricade/ar-BB1ffgXC
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« Reply #1 on: April 02, 2021, 12:44:34 PM »

Not much new info, but a view of where this happened:

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« Reply #2 on: April 02, 2021, 01:50:19 PM »

Do the people who said the barriers should come down want to stick to demanding that?

I'm pretty sure this particular road block has always been there and wouldn't be coming down, fwiw.
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« Reply #3 on: April 02, 2021, 02:57:32 PM »

Nation of Islam. One of those organizations everyone in the right thinks is part of the left and everyone on the left thinks is part of the right. Seems like perfect fodder for all sorts of conspiracies.
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« Reply #4 on: April 02, 2021, 03:20:15 PM »

If nothing else, TIL the Nation of Islam and Farrakhan are still allowed on Twitter. So... that might change.

https://twitter.com/OfficialNOI
https://twitter.com/LouisFarrakhan
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« Reply #5 on: April 02, 2021, 03:27:15 PM »

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« Reply #6 on: April 02, 2021, 04:52:46 PM »
« Edited: April 02, 2021, 06:36:37 PM by Crumpets »

Well, this is great. Just great. Now they can even “both sides” attacking the US Capitol and killing Capitol Police.

Thanks a lot, dumbass NOI terrorist.
?, what sides are you talking about?

The right is going to claim this was radical left-wing terrorism because he’s black and Muslim. Doesn’t matter if it’s factually accurate or not, the narrative will stick and they’ll bring it up every time someone mentions 1/6. I can see it already.

This is a very easy bluff to call, though. Democrats lose nothing if we include groups like NoI in a broader anti-cult/conspiracy agenda.
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« Reply #7 on: April 03, 2021, 11:10:30 AM »

Insane Black-Muslim terrorist.

But despite this guy and the Arab shooting around and killing 10 in CO, it’s still the Republican Party and Trump supporters who are the biggest terrorists in your country.

It literally is. I say this having worked in a national security think tank for 2+ years and reading loads of jihadi propaganda about why they are the biggest and baddest kids on the block. Some things to consider:

1) Numbers alone: There are a lot more right-wing crazies in the US than even the broadest definition of "Islamic extremists."
2) Ability to advertise, recruit, and train in the US: See how long it takes you to find a newsletter or a "contact us" for a right-wing militia group. Then try that for a group like al-Qaeda or ISIL. (NoI is a notable exception for this, hence my post earlier in the thread about why I expect that not to last much longer).
3) Visibility and openness: How often have you seen news interviews with right-wing militia members vs. jihadis or other Islamic extremist groups in the US? When was the last time there was a no-kidding Islamist rally in the US where al-Qaeda and ISIL flags were flown on the scale of Unite the Right or January 6th? If such a rally happened, how long do you think it would last before being shut down and everyone arrested?
4) Sympathy from higher-ups: No presidential candidate has ever called Islamic extremists "very fine people," and Islamic extremist groups have considered every American politician their enemy, including people like Ilhan Omar and Rashida Tlaib, who have made Muslim civil rights cornerstones of their campaigns.

One good anecdotal example of this is that, when I was specifically working on trying to assess the threat of al-Qaeda-aligned Syrians (admittedly only a small sub-section of a broader network) conducting an attack in the US, basically the only evidence of a actual presence I could find I could find was a series of photos taken Pennsylvania by someone for a pro-al-Qaeda magazine based in Syria. Meanwhile, even despite living in places like Seattle and DC, there is a very obvious presence by groups like the Proud Boys and to a lesser extent the Oath Keepers and III%ers that has led to overtly violent confrontations in both cities multiple times in the last 5 years. If the question is which I feel threatened by, it's the one that burned flares and waved their flags outside the store where I was going Christmas shopping back pre-COVID, and they definitely weren't shouting "Allahu Akbar."
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« Reply #8 on: April 03, 2021, 01:11:50 PM »

Also, just to state the obvious, trying to lump NoI with ISIL under a single "Islamic" umbrella is about as analytically useful as linking the FLDS Church and the Taiping Heavenly Kingdom under a single "Christian" umbrella.
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