Midwest Senatorial Runoff Canceled

[WiseGuy]

Um, Daniel is now a duel-citizen, hopefully he can still get elected as a Senator.

Yeah, why can't he be elected???

[WiseGuy]

Um, Daniel is now a duel-citizen, hopefully he can still get elected as a Senator.

No, Atlasia doesn't recognize West Atlasia, therefore his registration can't be counted

Technically speaking, there is nothing illegal in Atlasia with regards to recognizing a country that Atlasia doesn't, and given that he registered in Atlasia (ignoring the fact that he also registered in West Atlasia), his registration should count.

But he's a REBEL! 

Excuse me, the President said anyone who came back to Atlasia would not be excluded from running for office or voting.  Plus, West Atlasia is probably going to become an entirely different separate micronation, and CheeseWhiz even asked if we should change the name.  His registration is legal.

[WiseGuy]

I can't really see anything wrong with allowing him to run again.  All this amounts to is just an excuse to not let somebody play in the game.

Agreed.  In fact, I'm begining to wonder if there isn't political motivation behind this action.  ILV has repeatedly said he's "scared of libertarians," and almost definitely is happy with populist liberal Lewis Trondheim representing him rather than Conservative/Libertarian DanielX.

[WiseGuy]

I can't really see anything wrong with allowing him to run again.  All this amounts to is just an excuse to not let somebody play in the game.

Agreed.  In fact, I'm begining to wonder if there isn't political motivation behind this action.  ILV has repeatedly said he's "scared of libertarians," and almost definitely is happy with populist liberal Lewis Trondheim representing him rather than Conservative/Libertarian DanielX.

Behind what action?

Chancelling the run off, and saying DanielX can't run/DanielX's registration isn't valid.

[WiseGuy]

What's the point of a run-off if one of the candidates left Atlasia?  Cancelling the run-off and holding a new election works fine.

But he also said that DanielX's registration was invalid.  Plus, If a run off was planned, I think it should continue.  He could run it between DanielX and write-ins, and I don't remember him saying anything about a new election.  He was just going to leave Lewis in until the next election in Febuary, IIRC.

[WiseGuy]

What's the point of a run-off if one of the candidates left Atlasia?  Cancelling the run-off and holding a new election works fine.

But he also said that DanielX's registration was invalid.  Plus, If a run off was planned, I think it should continue.  He could run it between DanielX and write-ins, and I don't remember him saying anything about a new election.  He was just going to leave Lewis in until the next election in Febuary, IIRC.

Write-ins are prohibited in run-off elections, so a run-off would be totally pointless.

Oh, yes.  I knew that.  I don't know what I was thinking.  But, yet again, you ignored the latter half of my post.  No new election was scheduled, IIRC, and he said DanielX's registration was invalid.

[WiseGuy]

I didn't reply to those points because I have no comment- it's ILV's decision not to grant the registration rights to the rebels.  I'm not sure what I'd do in such a position myself, either.  I've been critical of Verin's handling of the election but I do not believe his decision to deny registration rights to the rebels is politically motivated against libertarians.

The President has already said voting rights and the right to run for election would not be taken away.  I might be wrong, but I thought Presidential policy over ruled any decision by the SoFA.

[WiseGuy]

Note that if West Atlasia does become a bona fide simulation of its own, and it 'returns to the fold' here, so to speak, then I'll of course acknowledge their registrations

What do you mean returns to the fold?  If it becomes a separate micronation, it wouldn't be a part of Atlasia (although some of the members might decide to participate in both, just like DanielX and me.)

I'm sorry for accusing you of political gerrymandering, but I still think DanielX's registration should be valid, and President Emsworth already said he agreed (and so did soon-to-be President Joe Republic.)

[WiseGuy]

P.S. I again disown my brother for even thinking that ILV would do something like that.  Shame on you!

Well, at the time I didn't understand why he wasn't recognizing his registration, because the President had already said he should, and the reasons seemed (and still do) pretty superficial.  I knew that he knew that President Emsworth had said that the Rebels who came back would retain voting rights and the right to run for office.  I just was trying to figure out why he was doing it.  I like ILV too, but he was puzzling me as to why he would discount a registration that me, the President, Joe, Gabu, and you said should be counted.

[WiseGuy]

P.S. I again disown my brother for even thinking that ILV would do something like that.  Shame on you!

Well, at the time I didn't understand why he wasn't recognizing his registration, because the President had already said he should, and the reasons seemed (and still do) pretty superficial.  I knew that he knew that President Emsworth had said that the Rebels who came back would retain voting rights and the right to run for office.  I just was trying to figure out why he was doing it.  I like ILV too, but he was puzzling me as to why he would discount a registration that me, the President, Joe, Gabu, and you said should be counted.

Because I was told that I should make decisions less more decisively, with less care for what the public (which is who had responded before my first post here) says?  (which is rather amusing, because I made that decision based on what the public thought )

But dosen't Presidential policy overrule your decisions?  If so why would you make a decision that was contrary to the President's decision that the rebels who came back would have voting rights?  Did you not think it applied because he registered in Atlasia and West Atlasia?  I'm not trying to interrogate you or anything, just trying to understand.  Also, is he a valid candidate for the new election that we're gonna hold?  He declared his candidacy in the candidate declaration thread yesterday.