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Sir Mohamed
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« on: April 22, 2020, 01:38:11 AM »

Tara Reade was sued for failure to pay rent in 2011.  She filed for bankruptcy in 2012.  She was evicted for failure to pay $12,000 worth of rent in 2013.  She was sued by Synchrony Bank twice, in 2016 and 2017.  She was sued for debt collection by Southwestern Law School in 2016.  Is this your credible accuser?

Of course not. The story appears to be a hoax. The problem with all stories like this is fits a narrative certain people want fitted. My biggest problem with false accusation is not just an attempt to ruin ones career, also hurts credibility of actual victims of rape and harassment.
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« Reply #1 on: May 04, 2020, 01:48:43 AM »

Having watched this unfolding, it's plain obvious the story doesn't add up. Not just are there huge question marks in terms of evidence and proof on the harshest accusations, the frequent change of her story makes it hard to believe anything. It's just Biden needs to go through this, let alone the long term damage this does to #MeToo.

People may argue this isn't a criminal indictment and therefore the burdon of proof is not the same, but we shouldn't set different standards with that regard. Biden doesn't need to prove his innocence, but he needs to answer the questions. He did so by demanding the natl archives to look it up. Reade then switching to she didn't file a complaint is more evidence this is a fraud. For whatever motives.
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« Reply #2 on: May 05, 2020, 09:52:31 AM »

Nancy Pelosi and a host of others who are very measured and thoughtful about what they say stood by him last week. She wouldn't have done that without grilling his ass first. I believe Biden.
I was thinking about this and the Obama endorsement. I don't think Obama would have endorsed so full-throatedly as he did if he wasn't positive this wouldn't damage his legacy. He knows that it's going to be clear who is telling the truth in the end.

His VP vetting team would have found a complaint or any dirt, if there was one. They weren't as inept as Trump's people.
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« Reply #3 on: May 22, 2020, 01:30:25 AM »

I'm not gonna lie, I really don't like how some red avatars here are just trashing Reade like she came up with an entire event to trash Biden. Now, I'm not saying I believe her fully, but there was some evidence at least her 2019 claim was true, which makes sense given Biden's history in the past, but her original claim which does have some information and evidence backing it up was not directly with Biden, but with his office alone. The way some here are treating Reade is the same was that Republicans treated Blasey Ford and I really feel like that goes into slippery slope territory and I'm not really a fan of this.

It seems likely she has been manipulated by some people to continue to push a narrative against Biden and I'm not excusing her actions here at all. I'm just saying it feels like she probably has some issues she needs to take care of and is being manipulated to take them out on Biden.

Now, we can pretty much dismiss her 2020 story as being made up just to smear Biden and that is a serious issue, I'll agree to that, once this settles down then hopefully the Biden camp will expose the people behind this.

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No.  Just no.

She came up with the entire event to trash Biden.  The evidence for this has been overwhelming for weeks.  Every new piece of evidence that has come out has only served to further confirm it.

What is your alternative explanation?  Her story can't be half true.  It's either true or it's not.

"I'm not saying I believe her fully"?  Like you only believe her 80%?  You shouldn't believe her at all.  She is lying.  She is a bigger liar than Donald Trump.  And you should be furious that you were lied to and taken advantage of.

Whether the 2019 story is true or not (it's not) is immaterial.  Nobody cared about that story in 2019 and certainly nobody cares about it in 2020.  It has zero impact on the campaign.  They are two completely different stories.  The issue at question is whether or not she was raped by Joe Biden.  She was not.  Even if the 2019 story was true (it's not), she doesn't get truth-teller brownie points for telling the truth about an entirely unrelated story.  Her phony rape story doesn't become any less of a lie just because she told the truth about something else.  She is a liar and her story is a lie.

The way Fox News Republicans treated Blasey Ford was wrong because there was no evidence that Blasey Ford was lying.  Republicans were simply saying what they wanted to be true.  But Tara Reade is lying.  So treating her like a liar is entirely appropriate.  She should be sued for slander, sued for fraud, sued for perjury, and made to answer for any innocent people she has put in prison with her false testimony.

Tara Reade may have been manipulated by Katie Halper, Ryan Grim and Nathan Robinson.  But that does not absolve her of responsibility!  She is the one who made the decision to invent a rape allegation and level it against Joe Biden.  It's not like Halper/Grim/Robinson plucked a rando off of Twitter and told her what to say.  She came up with the idea, and they coached her on how to maximize its effectiveness.

The only reason I am not 100% saying she is lying is because I'm not a hypocrite who believes women only when it benefits my ideology. I'm not the one here so obsessed with this story to make long winded posts and make a medium account to post their information.

I've posted over and over again here that her story is most likely false, but I'm not going to say one way or the other until there's definitive proof one way or the other. I'm not going to sit here and attack her either. Hopefully, if there's definitive proof that she is lying, and I'll admit, there does seem to be a lot suggesting she is, then by all means call her out. But I have not seen any evidence it was her herself that came up with this story.

Nobody, or almost nobody, believes Biden solely because of politicial motives. It's more like the story (and Reade herself), that changed multiple times, has credibility issues. If evidence was as strong as against numerous other cases, almost none her would continue to support Biden any more. Depening on strong the case is, neither would the DNC or Dem elected officials.

Analyzing the evidence we have over the assault story, it's fait to say it's a lie. Now, I believe there may have been a siutuation she felt uncomfortable with Biden making complementary comments or he was touchy, but accussing him of assault is still a lie and not an exaggeration. Biden himself probably doesn't remember at all since this kind of behavior was routine for him for all these years, including in interactions with men.
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