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President Punxsutawney Phil
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« on: July 31, 2018, 06:39:22 PM »

650 members. Minimum of 4 constituencies for each state.
Some maps coming soon.
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« Reply #1 on: July 31, 2018, 06:45:17 PM »

How many people would that equal per district?
roughly 500,000 in general though it varies per state, and there's a +/-10% deviation in use.
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« Reply #2 on: July 31, 2018, 07:13:43 PM »
« Edited: August 08, 2018, 12:20:17 PM by Southern Speaker Punxsutawney Phil »


Cook County:
Chicago Far South 96-3 Obama D+45
Chicago South 90-9 Obama D+40
Chicago Central 87-12 Obama D+36
Chicago North 81-18 Obama D+32
Chicago Far North 75-24 McCain D+25
Thornton 78-21 Obama D+27
Worth-Palos 56-43 Obama D+3
Proviso 73-26 Obama D+23
Evanston 66-33 Obama D+15
Schaumburg 58-41 Obama D+6

Collar Counties:
Aurora-Elgin 55-43 Obama D+2
Wheaton 55-44 Obama D+2
Naperville 56-42 Obama D+5
Joliet 55-44 Obama EVEN
Lakeshore 61-38 Obama D+9
McHenry 53-46 Obama R+4

Outside of the state of Illinois:
Rockford 53-45 Obama R+4
Dekalb-Ottawa 54-45 Obama R+5
Peoria-Quad Cities 58-41 Obama D+1
Bloomington 47-52 McCain R+11
Springfield 49-49.4 McCain R+11
Champaign 51-47 Obama R+5
Granite City 52-47 Obama R+11
Effingham 43-56 McCain R+23
Belleville-Cairo 55-44 Obama R+4
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« Reply #3 on: August 01, 2018, 09:12:38 AM »
« Edited: August 08, 2018, 12:47:13 PM by Southern Speaker Punxsutawney Phil »


W OH:
Cincinnati West 56-43 Obama D+5
Cincinnati East  43-56 McCain R+8
Hamilton 38-61 McCain R+16
Dayton 55-44 Obama D+2
Beavercreek 35-63 McCain R+18
Sidney 38-61 McCain R+20

Applachian OH:
Lancaster-Coshocton 42-56 McCain R+13
Portsmouth 41-57 McCain R+18
Athens 50-48 Obama R+11
Youngstown 56-42 Obama R+3

Franklin County:
Columbus North 50-49 Obama, EVEN
Columbus East 65-34 Obama, D+17
Columbus South 51-47 Obama, D+1

NW OH:
Lima-Bowling Green 42-56 McCain R+16
Toledo 64-35 Obama, D+10
Elyria 56-43 Obama D+1
Marion 43-55 McCain R+15
Ashland 42-56 McCain R+16

NE OH:
Cleveland West 59-40 Obama D+7
Cleveland East 83-16 Obama D+33
Firelands (Geauga, Lake, part of Cuyahoga) 56-43 Obama D+2
Akron 59-40 Obama D+6
Canton 52-47 Obama R+6
Mahoning 57-41 Obama EVEN
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« Reply #4 on: August 01, 2018, 09:22:38 AM »
« Edited: August 08, 2018, 01:21:49 PM by Southern Speaker Punxsutawney Phil »


Wayne County:
Monroe-Romulus 58-40 Obama D+2
Dearborn 65-33 Obama D+13
Livonia 77-22 Obama D+23
Detroit 88-11 Obama D+36

Oakland and Macomb counties:
Warren-Sterling Heights 57-41 Obama D+3
Oakland North 46-53 McCain R+13
Troy 61-37 Obama D+9
Pontiac 56-42 Obama D+2

W Michigan:
Cadillac 48.8-49.4 McCain R+11
Grand Rapids 59-39 Obama D+3
Kalamazoo 55-43 Obama R+2
Ottawa 42-56 McCain R+14
Wyoming-Ionia 44-55 McCain R+12

Detroit exurbs+Lansing+leftovers
Battle Creek 51-47 Obama R+9
Lansing 60-38 Obama D+6
Ann Arbor 60-38 Obama D+6
Flint 64-35 Obama D+6
The Thumb 51-47 Obama R+11
Saginaw-Midland 55-44 Obama R+5
Mackinac 50-48 Obama R+10

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« Reply #5 on: August 01, 2018, 11:09:53 AM »
« Edited: August 08, 2018, 02:54:36 PM by Southern Speaker Punxsutawney Phil »


NoVa:
Fairfax North 60-39 Obama D+12
Fairfax South 59-40 Obama D+13
Arlington 71-29 Obama D+24
Manassas 58-42 Obama D+8
Loudoun 50-49 Obama R+1

West of Fall Line:
Shehandoah 38-61 McCain R+18
Roanoke 47-52 McCain R+8
Clinch-Powell 37-62 McCain R+25

Hampton Roads and Chesapeake Bay:
Virginia Beach-Accomack 49.4-49.7 McCain R+3
Norfolk 60-40 Obama D+8
Hampton-Portsmouth 65-34 Obama D+15
Rappahannock 42-57 Obama R+11

East of Fall Line:
Charlottesville 51-49 Obama D+3
Richmond South 54-45 Obama D+4
Richmond North-Henrico 60-40 Obama D+11
Emporia 47-52 McCain R+7
Fredericksburg 46-53 McCain R+9
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« Reply #6 on: August 01, 2018, 11:17:26 AM »

So how many seats would each state get? I can try to make the New England onrs
I respectfully decline, because 1) this is designed to be personal challenge of sorts for me, and 2) I already have a rough idea of how New England's seats will look like.
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« Reply #7 on: August 01, 2018, 01:08:54 PM »


Boston North
Boston South-Franklin
Weymouth
Cape Cod
Taunton
Salem
Essex
Cambridge
Lowell
Concord-Harvard
Worcester
Springfield
Berkshire


Stamford
Trumbull
New Haven
Waterbury
New London
Manchester
Hartford
Litchfield


Woonsocket
Providence
Pawtucket-Newport
Warwick
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« Reply #8 on: August 01, 2018, 01:17:14 PM »
« Edited: August 08, 2018, 03:41:22 PM by Southern Speaker Punxsutawney Phil »


Burlington
Champlain
Montpelier
Middlebury


Keene-Coos 60-39 Obama D+5
Manchester 52-47 Obama EVEN
Concord-Dover 56-44 Obama D+1
Portsmouth 49.7-49.5 Obama R+5


Augusta-Acadia 56-42 Obama D+2
Bangor 53-45 Obama R+4
Portland 63-35 Obama D+11
York 58-40 Obama D+3
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« Reply #9 on: August 01, 2018, 05:15:45 PM »

oh oh oh! Can I do SC? Pleeeeeease?


If your answer is yes...
How many districts would it need?
This is my challenge though. Giving anyone else the leeway to do any states only hurts the challenge.
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« Reply #10 on: August 02, 2018, 12:26:34 PM »


Suffolk County:
Suffolk West
Suffolk North
Suffolk South

Nassau+Queens:
Nassau North
Nassau Southeast
Nassau Southwest
Queens-Astoria
Queens-Flushing
Queens-Forest Hills
Queens-Jamaica

Staten Island+Brooklyn:
Staten Island
Brooklyn-Hamilton
Brooklyn-Canarsie
Brooklyn-Midwood
Brooklyn-Sunset Park
Brooklyn-Bedstuy

Manhattan:
Manhattan-Wall Street
Manhattan-Central Park
Manhattan-Harlem

Bronx:
Bronx-Pelham Bay
Bronx-Riverdale
Bronx-Yankee Stadium

Hudson Valley:
Westchester North
Westchester South
Tappan Zee
Catskill
Poughkeepsie

Northcountry+Central NY+Capital Region:
Albany
Saratoga
Adirondack
Oneida
Syracuse
Ithaca-Binghamton

Western New York:
Rochester
Corning
Niagara
Buffalo
Erie
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« Reply #11 on: August 02, 2018, 03:15:56 PM »



Philadelphia:
Philadelphia East
Philadelphia North
Philadelphia South

SEPA outside of Philly:
Levittown
Franconia
Montgomery South
Delaware-Darby
Chester

N of SEPA, E of Susquehanna:
Lancaster
Reading
Lehigh
Harrisburg
Luzerne
Lackawanna
Williamsport

W of Susquehanna:
York
Susquehanna
State College-Punxsutawney
Johnstown-Altoona
Erie

SW PA:
Pittsburgh North
Pittsburgh South
Allegheny
Westmoreland
New Castle
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« Reply #12 on: August 02, 2018, 04:32:52 PM »


Southern Jersey:
Atlantic City
Vineland
Camden
Toms River
Willingboro

Central Jersey:
Trenton
Monmouth
Middlesex West
Middlesex East
Union-Elizabeth

Northern Jersey:
Kittatinny
Morris
Passaic
Bergen North
Bergen South
Jersey City
Newark
Essex North
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« Reply #13 on: August 02, 2018, 04:47:20 PM »


Wilmington
New Castle North
New Castle South-Dover
Lewes
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« Reply #14 on: August 02, 2018, 05:23:44 PM »



Metro Baltimore and Eastern Shore:
Eastern Shore
Edgewood
Towson-Carroll
Columbia
Baltimore North
Baltimore South

DC burbs and Panhandle:
Allegany-Frederick
Montgomery North-Rockville
Montgomery South
College Park
Annapolis
St. Mary's
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« Reply #15 on: August 02, 2018, 05:42:02 PM »


Wheeling
Charleston
Beckley
Potomac-Elkins
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« Reply #16 on: August 02, 2018, 06:19:42 PM »


Coastal Plain:
Pamlico
Greenville
Wilmington-Jacksonville
Lumberton
Smithfield

Piedmont:
Durham
Raleigh North
Raleigh South
Fayetteville
Chapel Hill
Asheboro

Triad and Charlotte:
Greensboro
Winston-Salem
Statesville-Norman
Concord
Mecklenburg North
Mecklenburg South

Western Mountains:
Gastonia
Asheville
Boone
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« Reply #17 on: August 02, 2018, 06:20:47 PM »

That is a terrible way to draw West Virginia into 4 Districts.
I split 0 counties and I created compact districts. I also kept the coalfields whole.
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« Reply #18 on: August 02, 2018, 06:36:59 PM »

That is a terrible way to draw West Virginia into 4 Districts.
I split 0 counties and I created compact districts. I also kept the coalfields whole.
It is possible to split 0 counties and create compact districts in this scenario without making them look so ugly.
How can they possibly be seen as ugly?
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« Reply #19 on: August 02, 2018, 06:48:37 PM »


Lowlands:
Charleston
Myrtle Beach
Hilton Head-Aiken
Santee

Uplands:
Columbia
Lexington-Murray
Kershaw
Spartanburg
Greenville
Clemson
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« Reply #20 on: August 02, 2018, 07:39:56 PM »


Southern GA:
Savannah
Waycross-Vidalia
Valdosta
Columbus
Augusta
Macon

Inner Atlanta Metro:
Atlanta North
Atlanta South
Decatur
Stone Mountain
Gwinett
Marietta

Atlanta exurbs+Northern GA:
Griffin
LaGrange
Athens
Hartwell
Gainesville
Dalton
Rome
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« Reply #21 on: August 02, 2018, 08:23:28 PM »


Paducah
Bowling Green
Somerset
Louisville East
Louisville West-Fort Knox
Nicholasville
Lexington
Ashland
Covington
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« Reply #22 on: August 02, 2018, 09:11:42 PM »


Memphis South
Memphis North
Jackson-Dyersburg
Tennessee
Murfreesboro
Nashville South
Nashville North-Clarksville
Lebanon-Cookeville
Crossville
Chattanooga
Maryville
Knoxville
Johnson City
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« Reply #23 on: August 02, 2018, 09:18:28 PM »

I'm moving east to west so Indiana is likely to be one of the states up soon. Florida, Alabama, and Indiana are the most easterly states I haven't done yet. Those three along with Mississippi and Wisconsin are the only states east of the Mississippi so far unfinished.
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« Reply #24 on: August 03, 2018, 04:37:02 AM »
« Edited: August 03, 2018, 10:28:21 AM by Southern Speaker Punxsutawney Phil »

That is a terrible way to draw West Virginia into 4 Districts.
I split 0 counties and I created compact districts. I also kept the coalfields whole.
It is possible to split 0 counties and create compact districts in this scenario without making them look so ugly.
How can they possibly be seen as ugly?
For starters, this is a very neat District for Southern West Virginia with only a 56 person deviation:


Going with such a district creates a very long district running alongside the eastern part of the state, OR it puts Kanawha and Greenbrier Counties together. Neither is good for compactness/CoI. The way I did it is not ugly - it creates districts that are kind of boxy but that's just one way it can be done. And I quite like the districts the way they are. You still haven't really justified your claim that the map is "ugly".
I really don't like the western NY districts either. You split the Buffalo suburbs between three districts,  divided the Southern tier between different districts, and drew Niagara so that it contains parts of two metro areas. Those borders don't really represent the communities of interest around here very well.
If that's the case, that's because I am trying very hard to avoid county splits, the size of the seats themselves (which are less than 75% of RL CDs, which forces more CoIs to be split), and because the Rochester seat itself is drawn using a natural border. Erie+Niagara is simply too big for 2 districts, so I had to create an obligatory Buffalo-centric seat, an Erie seat, a Rochester seat, and a district combining exurbs/suburbs from both metros.
The geography and population distribution is just too awkward to keep Buffalo suburbs within just two seats, maintain compactness overall, have a reasonable Rochester seat, AND have minimum county splits. I was also hemmed in by the districts drawn in the Hudson Valley, so I had less room than usual to use greater deviation as means to keep CoI together.
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