IL-3 Dem Primary: Election Day!

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

For all the right- Winger's lamenting Democrats engaging in a so-called Purity Purge of Lipinski, consider this. Take an AR + 6 District like Steven teague's or Justin Amash instead of A+ 6D District like lipinski's. Now imagine the Republican incumbent has a voting record that is pro Obamacare, Pro DREAM Act, pro-gay marriage even before became a fait accompli by the Supreme Court, and resolutely aggressively pro-choice. And they even refused to endorse Romney over Obama in 2012.

Go on and tell us because they are anywhere from right-of-center to mainstream conservative on economics that you would oppose a staunch conservative primary Challenger because you opposed Purity purges by either major party.

Yeah, I didn't think so either. The bottom line is conservatives are upset because they're losing a conservative vote on multiple issues out of this primary. Yet no one I think would hold my own party to the same standards of moderation. The fact is, it's unlikely that such a Republican incumbent as I described would ever exist or be elected in the first place in an r + 6 District. Though maybe if they inherited the seat from their father the same way Lipinski did, maybe.

"Right-wingers"? It's interesting that you would lump in people like Bagel23 (moderate Democrat) and GreenLine (independent), as well as an independent such as myself, under such a category. The argument throughout, which I have made, is that I think polarization would be less if there was room for ideological diversity within each party, and room for compromise and bipartisanship on more issues. The route that you're suggesting would eventually eliminate people like Manchin and Collins, leaving us with only politicians with aggressively partisan agendas, unwilling to work across party lines for the better good of the country.

You’re making it out as if Lipinski is some grand deal maker like Ted Kennedy. Heck he voted against the bipartisan Dream Act in 2010!!!

He voted against it because it lacked Stupak-Pitts. But hey, never let facts get in the way of a good-sounding story!

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

For all the right- Winger's lamenting Democrats engaging in a so-called Purity Purge of Lipinski, consider this. Take an AR + 6 District like Steven teague's or Justin Amash instead of A+ 6D District like lipinski's. Now imagine the Republican incumbent has a voting record that is pro Obamacare, Pro DREAM Act, pro-gay marriage even before became a fait accompli by the Supreme Court, and resolutely aggressively pro-choice. And they even refused to endorse Romney over Obama in 2012.

Go on and tell us because they are anywhere from right-of-center to mainstream conservative on economics that you would oppose a staunch conservative primary Challenger because you opposed Purity purges by either major party.

Yeah, I didn't think so either. The bottom line is conservatives are upset because they're losing a conservative vote on multiple issues out of this primary. Yet no one I think would hold my own party to the same standards of moderation. The fact is, it's unlikely that such a Republican incumbent as I described would ever exist or be elected in the first place in an r + 6 District. Though maybe if they inherited the seat from their father the same way Lipinski did, maybe.

This is the bottom line, right here.

If he represented some Utah blood-red area or Alaska or the Oklahoma panhandle then no one would be complaining.

The stupid asshole represents Chicago.

Should be noted that a minority of IL-03 is in Chicago, and the gentrifying social liberal types Newman is targeting the most are such a tiny bit of the seat.

This last part of your sentence may very well save Lipinski at the end: the fact that the district is not as socially liberal as one would think.

I also think it is clear why Bernie Sanders won the district against Hillary Clinton: his economic populism resonated with its voters (and fit them better) more than Clinton's establishment views, as well as her corruption. I also understand why Sanders is supporting Newman, because he believes that she will be more progressive than Lipinski.

IL-03, at heart, seems to be a declining seat that has been losing industry for decades, which not only explains 1) why Sanders won here, and 2) if he loses, the single biggest reason will be because of Sanders endorsing Newman, not because of the abortion lobby's high-pitch, ideological diversity-hating campaign against him.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Here come the buzzwords about 'San Francisco values'....

As a gay person, I'm perfectly happy for the Democratic Party primary voters to reduce the ideological diversity of the party, through primaries to get rid of people who don't support LGBT rights. Some times parties need to cut of the deadwood.

IL-03 is an objectively different area than San Francisco. San Francisco is a heavily gentrified tech hub of sorts, while IL-03 is mostly declining labor-Democratic more socially-moderate suburbia.
Newman is running a campaign that pretty much seems to imply SF and IL-03 are the same, which is ridiculous. But she might still win.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

empty quote this post if you back King Dan

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

empty quote this post if you back King Dan

lmao no one has empty quoted it

Illiniwek is just busy I guess.
I know where he stands at least.
Lipinski fans are free to empty-quote it, but they don't have to.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

It's such an Atlas move to endorse someone based on how you think the race will be perceived by the Democrat party at large.

Stop being commentators, and act like voters ffs. If you're a pro-life Democrat vote for Dan. If you're a pro-choice progressive vote for Newman.

But this is an epitomization of everything that's unique and special about Atlas!

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I always am appalled to see the views of people, here, and elsewhere, who seem to think that all Democrats must be pro-choice, and vice versa for Republicans. Abortion now seems to be an issue where you either with someone, or against someone. No room for differing opinion.

Really mind-boggling as to why people might support politicians who share their views on contested political issues. Very appalling indeed!

The bigotry is appaling.

It's especially appalling how intellectually dishonest the Newman campaign is.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

As if to be pro-life is a bad thing? No wonder there are single-issue voters who won't give the Democrats the light of day for views such as this.

I didn't say it was or wasn't. Just call it by the correct name. ANTI-CHOICE.

Pro choice is ANTI-LIFE by your own definition

No actually, because they don't see a fetus as a real living thing.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

empty quote this post if you back King Dan

I support Dan but can we not make empty-quoting in these threads a thing?

What's wrong with a display of solidarity among backers of Dan?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Why is there still nothing in for IL-03 so far?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Why is there still nothing in for IL-03 so far?

Chill.

I am just surprised we see results for the gubernatorial races, but little in regards to some of these House primaries.
Maybe the anticipation is just killing me I guess.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

how is Dan doing this well so far?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

This is all gonna come down to Will.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Are the women who run Susan B Anthony List anti-women?

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I still expect a Newman victory, though now it'll almost certainly be within 5 points, as opposed to being
wider than that.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Newman continues to gain.

Daniel Lipinski*
37,433   51.3%
Marie Newman
35,550   48.7%

But perhaps not fast enough.

This race leans R at the moment.

Lipinski is not a Republican. That's just a stupid talking point to trot out.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

How much of Chicago is still out?

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DAN DAN DAN!!!

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Hopefully the Nazi wins the GE for lulz

"Vote for the Nazi, not the Polack"
sounds like an appealing slogan!  

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Hopefully the Nazi wins the GE for lulz

"Vote for the Nazi, not the Polack"
sounds like an appealing slogan!  

"Betchu did Nazi a candidate like me coming"

Dziękuję, voters in IL-03!

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Has AP called the race yet? I mean 10% are still out...

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

In the only race Illinois voters seem to have not f-cked up tonight, Brendan Kelly has a sh**t ton more votes than Mike Bost does in their respective primaries.

Put some respeck on Chuy's name.

I miss 2016

Chuy is a huge FF, yes.

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

I'd like to thank the Catholic Church, the Chicago Police, the AFL-CIO, working people, and minorities for sending our man back to Congress.

And the Polish-American community in IL 3rd as well!

FF coalition!

Amen! Lipinski is an amazing member of Congress!

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

It's sad than the Democrats will not be allowed to vote for their party in November.

Only a Republican and a Nazi will be on the ballot.

[citation needed]

[President Punxsutawney Phil]

Why Lipinski won
-The "neck" that stretches into Chicago is heavily Hispanic, who vote democratic because of big-government welfare programs and are socially moderate.

Lipinski voted against Obamacare

Lipinski voted against Obamacare because it lacked Stupak-Pitts. He voted for a much more progressive version of the bill that was sunk by Senate moderates.