Dems/leaners: Should Biden drop out?

[MT Treasurer]

It won’t happen — the human condition (ego and pride > survival) won’t allow it. Like Trump, Biden is driven by his ego and the people who have been the most vocal in dismissing all warning signs and pushing for his candidacy (including on this forum) will not admit that they were in fact wrong all along because they have attached their views to their own egos. Biden could have "retired for health reasons" several months or arguably even weeks ago, but good luck with that when we get to New Hampshire.

It’s fun to watch — grab your popcorn (if you’re not a Democrat, that is — if you’re a Democrat, you can still hold out hope for a spectacular GOP implosion, a complete collapse in GOP turnout and/or a third-party candidate taking votes away from the GOP nominee).

[MT Treasurer]

No one said democratic voters were in touch with reality.

I was just going to say: Can we please stop pretending that Democratic voters are somehow guaranteed to nominate the most "electable" candidate possible when they literally nominated a historically unpopular individual in 2016 and the one candidate capable of losing to the dumpster fire that was Donald Trump's 2016 presidential campaign?

Democratic voters (for now) will nominate the candidate party leadership wants them to nominate — this dynamic is the polar opposite of what is going on in the GOP because Democrats prioritize party, leadership, and unity over everything else. However, that doesn’t mean that leadership will always push for the most "electable" candidate. Just because Clyburn, Schumer and Pelosi want Biden doesn’t mean Biden would do better than the likes of Beshear, Whitmer or Polis in a GE.

Ultimately we'll find out at the ballot box in a few months, but I suspect Biden will win in a bloodbath landslide because the polls that most Democrats don't want him to be the nominee weren't really true.

Isn’t this the same logic as "Trump will win in a landslide because of his rallies and crowds"? Also, Biden's problems go way beyond Democratic enthusiasm — he still wins 85%+ of Democrats even in most polls which show him trailing badly in swing states such as PA and MI.